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Kid Wins Over Teacher In Creationism Suit

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lytesend
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 197 Posts
Monday, May 18, 2009 5:43:38 PM
Lol... The one guy (currently, at least) fighting for Creationism against a whole board of people with an IQ above 90. Run, Christians, run!

greggpethers
Male, 18-29, Europe
 272 Posts
Friday, May 15, 2009 1:11:02 AM
we dont. far from it. the sooner you, and your fellow god haters understand that, the better, for me, for you, and for this "scientific thought" that you hold so dear!

greggpethers
Male, 18-29, Europe
 272 Posts
Friday, May 15, 2009 1:10:54 AM
further to the fact that you can't prove that it can happen, there are instances such as the bombardier beetle, the angler fish etc etc... these examples directly refute evolution theory (as we know it)
further still, we have the problem that the world began, and that something cannot come out of nothing, which as you have rightfully stated, evolution cannot begin to explain!
so we have something that noone can say has ever happened, that has actual living evidence that questions it, and whose insuffience in answering the question that most people suggesr it does (what made the world be?) is absolute!
i am not suggesting you give up your faith in evolution my obnoxious little friend, i am simply saying that as it stands, there is a much bigger threat to the progression of our understanding of the world than creationists, and that is the arrogant, and misguided assurance that we now have the answer.

greggpethers
Male, 18-29, Europe
 272 Posts
Friday, May 15, 2009 1:10:45 AM
you havent stumped me either, i'm sorry to break it to you...
you seem so very happy with yourself for spouting the same gargled nonsense about how evolution might work, and dont seem to notice how superfluous all of your textbook based responses are!
read. this. very. carefully.
Evolution theory has provided an insight into how the world works. Evolution has changed the way we think about our own society... because of the philosophical impact of evolution theory, i have a great job that pays well. I am not the enemeny of evolution, i am just trying to show you how you 're turning in to your worst nightmare.
whatever you say in response, there is still no proof that evolution (from one species to another) happens that you can point to, modern scientists agree that depsite all the text book reassurance, it is still highly improbable that it would happen... "a tornado sweeping through a junk-yard might assemble a Boeing 747 from the materials therein." Fred Hoyl

Spambot3000
Male, 18-29, Europe
 528 Posts
Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:13:07 PM
Tazman321 your capslock-tastic comment suggest's to me that a logical discussion would be to much for you to handle and would probaly make your brain exploade but hear it goes.

The main resion I don't believe in God is because no one has proven he exists. Now I relise that you will reply by saying that no one has proven he doent exist but to a scientific mind that's not how things work. Every thing else in the world has to be proven true, crimnials have to be proven guilty, medicine has to be proven effective, scientific theroies have to be proven true. Why should God be any different? The bible even if taken as fact, which is highly unlikley, would only be a witness statment there is still no solid evidence to back it up.

The resion people seem to hate God is because we can't understand the logic in devoting your life to something that hasn't been proven or deffending this devotion to a degree that seems ludacriss to the outside world. This causes a lot of friction and resentment


SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2253 Posts
Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:29:43 PM
Also, God is by definition illogical--so I am not sure what you are asking for.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2253 Posts
Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:35:58 AM
No one hates the secular things that Christianity stands for [omitting the right to sell your children into slavery, stoning homosexuals to death, beating your wife, killing other men for particular 'sins,' killing people if they do not respect the sabbath, killing women if they strike a man in his genitals while he is engaged in combat with another man (that is no drating joke), women not being allowed to speak in church, women not being able to be priests/pastors/ministers, women being forced to remain virgins, killing people for wearing cotton polyester blends (no bullpoo}, et cetera et cetera!!

So you get the point. The other stuff that Christianity believes in that is good is stuff like: How they wish good will on others. How they take time out of their day to think good things about others [if they are trained to pray correctly] and for their family, and their future. Their love of humanity and the respect they pay to it. But there are too many flaws with it.


Zuriel
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 555 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:18:59 PM
... ya just can't have a debate with someone who still believes in fairy tales.

Mother-goose called, she wants her storybook back.


tazman321
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 190 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 5:11:04 PM
GOD! WHY DOES EVERYBODY ON F*CKING IAB HATE CHRISTIANITY?! ID LIKE ONE MUTHAF*CKER WHO INSULTED GOD TO GIVE A LOGICAL F*CKING EXPLANATION TO HOW WE GOT HERE! THIS KIND OF SH*T PISSES ME OFF! AND SPRINKZ, COULD ONE HATE MAIL HAVE BEEN ENOUGH? DID THERE HAVE TO BE 20? JESUS LOVES YOU, BUT SHUT UP! PLEASE!

JustTori
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 6 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:59:18 PM
drat that kid. Everything the teacher said was right. Creationism IS supersticious nonsense, and has had a major role in ruining Europe throughout history - which makes it very important for that class.

Slade8
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 958 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:33:00 PM
Religion, that kid from the video, his lawyer, all those reporters and Fux News all blow nutsack. :\

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2253 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:02:00 PM
"regarding myself, it astounds me that you think i dont know what occams razor is. you must think you;re such a smart gifted individual coz you went to a lecture about biology, and read the reccomneded reading!"

You obviously don't--because if you did then you'd know it is often employed to denounce the existence of God. God is a superfluous explanation to the universe. Adding God into the equation anywhere makes something overly complicated and thus is logically unsound according to it.

The irony of it is, that a monk was the one who came up with it. Anyway, good luck with all the reading.

Make sure to read talk.origins and actually try to READ it and UNDERSTAND it. Once you do, we will be great friends because for once in your life you will finally have the doors to enlightenment forced open by the wisdom of greater men and women than both of us.


SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2253 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:59:39 PM
"i am not a christian by any stretch, i just see the flaws in your self inflated, incomplete, and noxious veiws on life."

Well, your 'veiws [sic]' are pathetically misinformed. You can think whatever you want, but at the end of the day, I am right, and you are completely and utterly wrong. Thanks for trying though.

It's not like you've once stumped me. But everytime I stump you, you just find a new argument and disregard how badly you got verbally slaughtered.


SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2253 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:58:28 PM
"we exist! so how did we get here bigshot? have you any clue? or are you going to find another high school style american insult to throw at me? if evolution is so accurate about the origins of life, then let's start at the beginning shall we? NO?? i thought not."

Evolution != Abiogenesis

/Laugh on

/Laugh off


SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2253 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:57:19 PM
lost this argument entirely. Don't try to be wise again until you read the counter-arguments to your arguments.

That's what a SMART person does. They don't just eat up the bias.


SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2253 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:56:38 PM
You do realize that I have completely and utterly extirpated every single argument you have made, right?

Just because someone doesn't readily have an answer for you doesn't mean that God did it. You have to learn that. God did nothing. God is in your mind. God is you. God is whatever you want to believe he is. God is something that people make up to explain away things that they do not understand. People feel extremely uncomfortable when they don't understand something. Try reading a scientific paper with all the jargon in it. I'm sure you'd put it down because it makes you uncomfortable or bored to read something you don't get.

God is the easiest, simplest, most irrational solution to any problem that humanity has ever faced. Anyone can grasp it. You don't even have to THINK about it. Just say, "God did it."

And now you know why I genuinely hate people like you, and whenever I see people like you, I make any effort I can to show you how wrong you are.

Anyway, you l


SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2253 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:52:45 PM
Also, there are no 'missing links'. The whole missing link thing is nonsense. We already a fossil record for whales that shows their transition from land-based mammals with hind legs to their present day form with their withered leg bones still inside of them [they are clearly vestigial]. But creationists and ID types alike like to point out that everytime we 'fill' a gap that there are now TWO gaps.

So let me give you an example.

Say there is a dog, and we have the present day animal, and a fossil from 20 million years ago. They will say, "Hey, there is a missing link here!" We find it, and then they say, "Now there are two missing links!" And so on and so forth. Don't get caught up in the hype. These people are lying to you, and confusing your sensibilities by forcing you to accept their doctrine and their way of thinking--which is extremely dangerous. Free your mind, child.


SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2253 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:49:03 PM
Irreducible complexity has already been proven wrong so much and so hard that I am surprised you even said it. I was hoping for something more clever, but the motor flagellum [the thing that makes sperm move] can be reduced to only 20% of its parts and still function. So much for irreducible complexity. *guffaw*

It still can move, just maybe not as efficiently, but if things were 'irreducibly complex' then removing a single part from it would render it useless. That is the hypothesis behind it, and it was proven wrong years ago.

You're a very lazy person, and I do think you are extremely stupid. Because so far you haven't proven a shred of intelligence.


SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2253 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:47:10 PM
Also, why life. This is a really interesting and fun question to answer, and honestly I am going to save you the trouble of reading it from me and request you go to talk.origins [google it] and read about abiogenesis. Life is arranged from chemical bonds. That's why DNA is so effective as opposed to RNA [which is what viruses usually are, and also the first life forms were probably RNA based because it's so simple but it doesn't copy as well as DNA because only certain chemical bonds can occur, and thus there is less transcribing errors and thus more stability in the code.]

Anyway, go to talk origins and that will illuminate this.


SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2253 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:45:05 PM
"as for objections... why are there still apes? where are the mising links? how does double valve heart system evolve? why life? irreducible complexity? just google it, it's pretty easy."

I'm going to start with this.

Number one, I already know the answers to all of these things. Except for how a heart valve evolves [which is arguably not as hard as let's say an eye, and I know how an eye evolves.]

There are still apes the same way there are still wolves, amoebas, lions, dolphins, mollusks, octopuses and other animals: because they fill a particular niche. Evolution is NOT, I repeat, NOT a teleological process in which it is based on a hierarchy, for instance, a meal worm is just as 'evolved' as you or me. Evolution is not about how complex something is, or how many base pairs it has, or how complex its structure is. Evolution is merely a scientific theory that accurately describes how things have changed [which is based on the environment they are in].


greggpethers
Male, 18-29, Europe
 272 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:39:07 AM
Yeah, and it happens all the time. I had to deal with teachers treating me unfairly because I didn't subscribe to their particular beliefs, and often forcing me to side with them on religiously charged issues by screaming and yelling about it. What am I supposed to do? Tell the truth: that they are morons, or agree and get my A?

BITTER!!!!!

any arguments that stems from being bullied by people that are equally as ignorant and self important as yourself isnt one basded out of rationality, but spite. noone ever bullied me about my beliefs little boy, that's why i dont have to call people "2 paper clips", and constantly "end" arguments...

still, makes sense looking back on it.


greggpethers
Male, 18-29, Europe
 272 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:16:21 AM
i'm through being nice to you, you're an idiot.

scientific theory is not the most right you can be you tool. 2+2= 4 that is true, no doubnt about it. no science needed!

we exist! so how did we get here bigshot? have you any clue? or are you going to find another high school style american insult to throw at me? if evolution is so accurate about the origins of life, then let's start at the beginning shall we? NO?? i thought not.

as for objections... why are there still apes? where are the mising links? how does double valve heart system evolve? why life? irreducible complexity? just google it, it's pretty easy.

regarding myself, it astounds me that you think i dont know what occams razor is. you must think you;re such a smart gifted individual coz you went to a lecture about biology, and read the reccomneded reading!

i am not a christian by any stretch, i just see the flaws in your self inflated, incomplete, and noxious veiws on life.



arniegrape
Female, 18-29, Western US
 109 Posts
Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:31:31 AM
that kids a brat!
whyd he have 2 take it all the way 2 court

guttersniper
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1 Posts
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:47:29 PM
anyone have a moment for the teachers response?http://open.salon.com/blog/corribean/2009/05/09/dr_james_jesus_glasses_corbett

BlueJack
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 386 Posts
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:20:10 PM
so natural and frequently occuring is even possible to absolve.

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