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Anti-Obama Man Kills 3 Pittsburgh Cops

Hits: 6451 | Rating: (2.1) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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NikkiTrue
Female, 18-29, Western US
 8 Posts
Saturday, July 25, 2009 12:39:32 AM
Hmmm I liek in America and I know that the UK's murder rate is actually HIGHER, my friend. I don't even live there!

If our government decides to take away guns, who is actually going to turn them in? The ones who DON'T have a criminal record. Therefore, criminals, of course, will KEEP their guns. So, don't blame murder on the gun.


McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13536 Posts
Monday, April 06, 2009 11:46:40 AM
"You think untrained citizens with small arms are going to do anything against those? Are you kidding me?"

Its happened. You should really take a look at what happened in Afganistain.


Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Monday, April 06, 2009 11:17:02 AM
...ry.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Monday, April 06, 2009 11:16:20 AM
@McGovern1981

No, look at what I said:

"We don't carry guns in the UK, and our murder rate is considerably lower than in the US. So whether or not you believe guns are good or bad, it doesn't matter; our murder rate is lower than America's, so if I'm already less likely to get murdered than an American is, why would I need a gun to protect myself?"

I said that our murder rate is already low, so why would I want or need a gun?

As for defending myself against my government; they have jets, tanks, nuclear missiles, highly-trained soldiers, etc. You think untrained citizens with small arms are going to do anything against those? Are you kidding me?

If things get to the point where I come to armed confrontation with my government, then I've already lost. You protect yourself far better by making smart choices at the ballot box and trying to make sure that other people also make smart choices. A gun hasn't protected you against the government's armies since the 19th centu


McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13536 Posts
Monday, April 06, 2009 10:18:18 AM
@GinnyRenee

That sounds very made up black powder probably wouldn't last that long in open air from moisture and time not to mention to ignite it that ember would have to go right down the hole where the matchlock or flint would go and everyone who ever handled the gun would have to neglect to see if it was loaded.


McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13536 Posts
Monday, April 06, 2009 10:13:41 AM
@Musuko42

So by your thought process guns are the only factor in murder rates not employment, education and ect. So then why don't you disarm your armies too because it seems pretty hypocritical that the government can arm itself for protection but it's citizens can't. Weapons can be made from almost anything.


Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Monday, April 06, 2009 8:37:48 AM
@CrakrJak

If by socialism you mean universal healthcare, then every other developed nation except the USA and South Africa are socialist, because you two are the only ones who don't have it.

Or do you define socialism by government intervention? Let's see, the American government is bailing out its banks AND some mortgage companies (IAG) AND car companies (the big three).

Whereas our government is bailing out banks...but is letting other companies, like Woolworths, crumble into bankruptcy; letting capitalism work.

Whether or not that's a good thing, and whether it was intentional on the part of our government, I don't know; but the fact remains that your government is engaged in far more "socialist" bailing out than ours is.

But hey, I have a low murder rate, healthcare that's full-coverage and good value (7% of my income pays for the universal healthcare AND my state pension AND unemployment welfare...can you beat that?), and a government that's not oppressed me ye


PierreJeanFR
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1337 Posts
Monday, April 06, 2009 6:34:42 AM
I'M SO GLAD I LIVE IN A GUN FREE SOCIETY THOSE THING DON'T HAPPEN HERE.
SHOOT SOME NRA PEOPLE THEY 'LL UNDERSTAND IT.

i-am-emo
Female, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 1267 Posts
Monday, April 06, 2009 3:45:53 AM
"People have been killing people since the beginning, Long before firearms were invented. "

Yes, but I've never been mugged by someone holding a claymore.
You're right though, Guns don't kill people. They just make it easier.


GinnyRenee
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 140 Posts
Monday, April 06, 2009 3:10:33 AM
I read a book once with an ironic twist on the whole "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" thing. This man had a well made gun during the United States' Revolutionary War and packed the powder and so on really well, and the book detailed what happened to the gun for like 200 years until it was hung above a fireplace. A stray ember set off the powder and shot a bullet through the room, out the window, and into a kid's brain, and he died. So sometimes, in the world of fiction, guns do kill people. It's The Rifle by Gary Paulsen.

Disco_Stu
Male, 18-29, S. America
 597 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:13:30 PM
Going with the comment flow: Gun control law is kind of like DRM and copy protection. Those who intend to break it, will do it anyway.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17299 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:08:54 PM
moefreak: Fact is if someone is intent on killing people, Gun laws will not stop them.

People have been killing people since the beginning, Long before firearms were invented.

Guns do not kill, People kill. Even a loaded and gun still needs a finger to pull the trigger.


srgkoala
Male, 18-29, Canada
 295 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 5:38:07 PM
"either shot OR injured" .... i always thought the two went hand in hand.

moefreak
Female, 18-29, Europe
 1969 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 5:03:53 PM
1) Feel awful for the families of everyone killed.
2) Feel barely controlled rage at the fact that each time an article involving a gun turns up on IAB, the conversation goes as follows;
"goes to show that Americans are idiots and love guns"
"Hey Europeans are violent too, check out these random statistics"¨
Can anyone, really, in their heart of hearts, deny the fact that it would be a hell of a lot more difficult to shoot someone without a gun?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17299 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:41:56 PM
Musuko42: "We don't carry guns in the UK, and our murder rate is considerably lower than in the US..."

And your country has embraced socialism to near it's breaking point. With an disarmed populace it's relatively easy to impose the governments will on it's people. That's why the UK is known as the Nanny state.


CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17299 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:37:59 PM
madest: "is crakrjak insane? yes"

Considering your nickname, That assertion is dubious at best.


Goublecoque
Male, 18-29, Europe
 88 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 3:50:06 PM
TKD - I'm still against Guns. How should I kill myself? Shoot myself? Purely for the irony? I'd appriciate creative input.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 3:48:49 PM
We don't carry guns in the UK, and our murder rate is considerably lower than in the US. So whether or not you believe guns are good or bad, it doesn't matter; our murder rate is lower than America's, so if I'm already less likely to get murdered than an American is, why would I need a gun to protect myself?

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6464 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 3:29:47 PM
is crakrjak insane?

yes


CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17299 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:43:37 PM
Is IAB parroting Daily KOS?

Despicable!


TKD_Master
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 4827 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:08:17 PM
this Link right here explains everything you need to know about gun control and why it is the most retarded idea anybody has ever thought of. oh and Ted Nugent wrote the contents of that link. if your against guns, read this. if your still against guns after this, go commit suicide.

chillimac
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 438 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 1:02:14 PM
HA! TRAVEL WITH KIDS!

Nidonemo
Male, 18-29, Western US
 9216 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:58:26 AM
goaliejerry, did you just admit to online harassment?

SyXxlunatic
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 176 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:10:13 AM
why Pitt? :|

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17299 Posts
Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:58:04 AM
The Asian immigrant that shot 13 people doesn't get posted. But the "anti-Obama" "gun-toting nut" does ?

Nice try at making political points off a tragedy IAB. Let's just vilify everyone that's anti-Obama or owns a gun.

Btw, You rarely ever hear of the women that thwart robberies/rapes (or worse) by being armed with a gun. Oh that's right, It's not P.C. How could owning a gun be a positive thing ? (At least that's how the media and IAB thinks)


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