 Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:35:21 PM
.... incidentally I know I noticed this 2 years too late...
Overmann:
"I am of the opinion that they should have done less, such as not transporting and protecting suspected child abusers"
Saying as it'd be horrifically unfair to argue when you're possibly never going to see this, I'll just say I agree, though it's an oversimplification of events. |
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 madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
6407 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 7:35:36 PM
this guy was a 20yo man when he was "molested" and was able to keep quiet while the money lasted. i have no sympathy for him. |
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 StapleMeElmo
Male, 18-29, Southern US
1021 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 5:33:58 PM
Priests molest children. It is widely known, the sinister ministers. |
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 Standards
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
936 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 2:08:36 PM
Ohh, I thought it said "Hagrid in another sex scandal." |
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 Boadicea
Female, 18-29, Canada
1668 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 12:15:33 PM
Ew I just watched this guy yesterday on Oprah. Random. They never talked about any of this though as far as I can remember. Honestly it's the religions fault that things like this happen, because it forces men who are gay to stifle their true selves out of shame. Obviously though that kind of repressed life ends up exploding in their face. (or in a lot of cases an innocent altar boy's face... sorry I had to). |
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 Boredx12
Female, 13-17, Europe
1661 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 12:04:58 PM
"struggle with homosexuality"
Nothing makes me sadder than when people try to change who they are because some stupid mind-controlling cult told them that they are wrong.
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 goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
4004 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 10:27:18 AM
A hypocritical christian? I've never heard of such a thing... |
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 musicofnight
Female, 30-39, Southern US
95 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 10:08:50 AM
Please don't lump all "religious leaders" under the same heading. 'When you say what's wrong with religious leaders?' in relation to what one or two are doing, it's unjust. I hate it that there are jerks who claim to be christians that are living a lie, but not all religious leaders are bad. The media only shows the bad ones. |
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 Backfat
Male, 30-39, Western US
1919 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 8:01:37 AM
wait. what. There is a storm alert? Now I wish they talked more about that... |
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 SarahJ86
Female, 18-29, Europe
497 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 6:55:10 AM
"Meh. It's not really NEWS when you say "pastor sodomizes kid" just like how it's not really NEWS when you say "Michael Jackson undergoes another face alteration"haha i love it! |
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 outdoorMINER
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
939 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 6:14:01 AM
What a cr33per. |
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 Kaizer250
Male, 18-29, Western US
779 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 3:53:36 AM
Now 'masturbate' is a bad word? |
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 caboose117
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
1201 Posts
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Friday, January 30, 2009 3:47:52 AM
Meh. It's not really NEWS when you say "pastor sodomizes kid" just like how it's not really NEWS when you say "Michael Jackson undergoes another face alteration" |
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 ChronicBored
Male, 18-29, Canada
93 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:54:07 PM
For some reason the line at the end made me crack up:"Well certainly slick roads tonight..." |
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 sixclaws13
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
2321 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:35:21 PM
"Organized religion is an institution for earthly things. Don't expect anything other than earthly interests from them.
A true religious life need not cost a dime."I felt the need to repost that because it's so true. |
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 TheBLB
Male, 18-29, Canada
244 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:21:11 PM
"I try to be a very open-minded person.I really try. But damnit, the Evangelicals are making it difficult!" The handful of us that make the news are... those of us trying to live normal, helpful lives aren't really. Maybe if we reach into semantics and say the church is terrorists etc., but in a practical sense, I probably don't make anyone's open-mindedness more difficult. I hope. |
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 Painter13
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
1378 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:28:01 PM
Religous leaders, self appointed people who interfere with you getting in touch with the spiritual "higher self". |
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 davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11682 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:10:47 PM
*smiles*Overmann, your presence has been missed. You are the surgical scalpel of reason. Welcome back. |
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 tornadofdoom
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
1090 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:39:46 PM
Baal is such a know it all(your welcome prime) |
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 Overmann
Male, 18-29, Southern US
3156 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:36:33 PM
"What's going on with religious leaders?"Remove the notion that religious leaders are somehow inherently more moral than the rest of us and you'll see. "As an organization, the Catholic Church should have acted sooner and done more." I am of the opinion that they should have done less, such as not transporting and protecting suspected child abusers. |
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 primetimekin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
8111 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:34:25 PM
*waits for users to say that baal is a know it all because he uses stats |
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 Pabasa
Male, 18-29, Asia
4153 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:25:24 PM
Why is this guy not yet defrocked? This is turning into Larry Craig. |
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Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:02:28 PM
Davymid:
I agree they deserve more scrutiny than anyone else. That is utterly different from falsely stereotyping priests as pedophiles. It is entirely appropriate that Ted Haggard is called on his sexual harassment charges.
What I find inappropriate is "What's going on with religious leaders?" One is useful scrutiny of people in power, the other is negative stereotyping which helps hide actual pedophiles. Estimates at RT are that 1 in 20 priests are pedophiles (technically hebephiles).
Estimates at my other link suggest 1 in 8 regular males are. As individuals Ted Haggard and his ilk need to be shunned and removed.
As a group, the Catholic priests are *more* trustworthy.
As an organization, the Catholic Church should have acted sooner and done more. These are three separate issues. (P.S. I only used Catholics specifically because I found Catholic stats more easily). |
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davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11682 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:41:11 PM
vv "You need to be shocked and disgusted at the scale of sexual abuse, not with "religious leaders" who fare better than fathers and step fathers when it comes to abuse."To be fair Baal, your everyday father or stepfather is not appointed to his position for the advocation of upholding the laws of God, and of the Church, and of Christianity. These people are put in a specific position of trust. After all, if we can't trust God's representatives on earth, then who can we trust? It is right and proper that these people (religious leaders) should come under more critical scrutiny than your average male. They are meant to be the moral keystone of society, the proof that religion is founded in morality and that without religion we have nihilism and debauchery and blah blah blah. Tell it to the judge. |
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 krath
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
264 Posts
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:19:29 PM
I think everyone is now screening their strange relatives in the back of their minds now... |
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