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Did Coldplay Steal From Joe Satriani?

Hits: 10696 | Rating: (3.3) | Category: Arts & Literature | Added by: huck08
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Raccoon
Female, 18-29, Canada
 342 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:03:48 AM
Notice they're only using this one part of each song? That means that the rest of it is likely NOT copied or whatever.

So they used the same chord progression. They're different songs, that's all there is to it. That's like saying they swiped from an orchestra because they use the standing bells and violins.

*ugh*

People have been borrowing parts of each others' songs since the times of Beethoven, Mozart, even Tchaikovsky. (Listen to the 1812 Overture... The start sounds strangely familiar... that's right. The royal march for the British Royal Family.)

As for the "finite number of note combinations..." That's honestly a type of lie. In all seriousness, you need to factor in the number of instruments, time signature, the song's key (F major would be very different from d minor) and phrasing. Very technical stuff in music. It would take millenia to figure out ALL of them. And, judging by the vastness of the music culture now, we're nowhere near the end.


Robert_D
Male, 18-29, Canada
 594 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:51:26 AM
There's a finite number of note combinations that are possible. Quick! Who will help me build a computer to render them all, sort through them, find good ones, and release every song possible?

peloos12
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3765 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:38:51 AM
Gotta agree with Pikapp here, the odds of the first 3 notes of a particular melody sounding like the first 3 of another are unusually high.

...and as for song samples used in rap, nobody "steals" anybody's songs. Samples have to be cleared by the record companies -- and in most cases, OK'd by the actual artist too.


spp
Female, 18-29, Europe
 302 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:35:48 AM
Have to say, when I first heard about this case I thought it would be like The Verves case, if they hadn't of said anything I honestly think no one would have noticed that they'd used the same riff as The Rolling Stones.

BUT, now then I heard both I see that it's rather similar. It doesn't matter if the notes aren't exactly the same, it just has to be recognisable as another's work, the reason The Hooisers didn't get sued by ELO for Goodbye Mr A sounding STUPIDLY like Mr Blue Sky is that they had an agreement and ELO are mentioned in the album sleeve.


Minimalist
Male, 18-29, Europe
 8 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:35:38 AM
vv Pikapp76, as it said on the video, it's not just the first three notes that are the same... it's the progression of the chords, and the background music. You can't say they didn't steal it just because viva la vida is a dumbed down version of a better song.

It'd be like someone writing 'To Kill a Mockingbird' in more modern language, taking some of the symbolism out, then claiming it was their's. It's still stealing.


pikapp76
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:24:57 AM
i don't know if anyone else noticed, but only the first THREE notes in the melodic line were the same. i don't think that's enough to merit an accusation of someone stealing another person's line.

mcmonkeyman
Male, 13-17, Canada
 244 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:20:48 AM
"if vanilla ice can get away w ice ice baby vs under pressure by david bowie, this utter and complete fail should be able to slide as well"

Vanilla ice admitted stealing from under pressure and told the media that is was just a part of rapping and everyone does it


JGESS
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 428 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:15:01 AM
if vanilla ice can get away w ice ice baby vs under pressure by david bowie, this utter and complete fail should be able to slide as well

bungled
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 270 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:12:07 AM
Joe's the man.

ellia
Female, 18-29, Asia
 157 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:07:09 AM
ah, so that's why viva la vida sounded so familiar to me when i first heard it. sucks though 'cause i do love coldplay, even if all of you guys dont :)

mannequin87
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 38 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:00:05 AM
No true talent here...

amaqdrinker
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2239 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:57:56 AM
"People borrow music all the time.
Look at Kanye West, he practically borrows for every song he has."

sampling in hip hop and rap is completely different than stealing a melody and a chord progression. a sample is taken out of context and used to form a separate beat, or at least it does when the artist samples well, which i think kanye does.


GlooStikk
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1298 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:57:53 AM
its not stealing
it just sucks

pighumper
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 342 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:40:17 AM
two crappy songs rolled into one. it always looks like joe satriani is pooping in his pants.

Cayday
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 142 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:38:42 AM
People borrow music all the time.
Look at Kanye West, he practically borrows for every song he has.

reDonkulous
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 213 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:31:21 AM
haha when it shows the singer of coldplay in a sweater and flashes rofl in the screen, i nearly died laughing. yeah they are similar but coldplay sucks so i'm not suprised they had to steal the song. Post a kirby if you think coldplay sucks with me! <("<)

amaqdrinker
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2239 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:22:30 AM
coldplay already ripped off radiohead and u2 anyway so i'm not that surprised.

a1butcher
Male, 40-49, Canada
 4783 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:18:35 AM
Totally the same !!!

huck08
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 412 Posts
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:18:43 AM
Link: Did Coldplay Steal From Joe Satriani? [Rate Link] - You mean Chris Martin couldn't make crappy music on his own? Listen and judge for yourself.

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