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 Vagrant86
Male, 18-29, Western US
 2566 Posts
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Friday, November 14, 2008 7:39:53 PM
lmao |
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 opiebreath
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
16061 Posts
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Friday, November 14, 2008 4:06:53 PM
It's a lot harder to eat healthy on little to no money. |
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 GATzilla
Male, 13-17, Southern US
15 Posts
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Friday, November 14, 2008 2:01:31 AM
thats stupid... i hate living in alabama |
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 simim23
Female, 18-29, Southern US
1435 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:38:55 PM
This makes perfect sense. You pay more in health insurance because you're at a greater health risk.People with disabilities and diseases have to pay more. My dad has epilepsy and my sister's autistic, and we have to pay more for our family health insurance in comparison to other families because of it. So why shouldn't fat people pay more? Makes perfect sense, especially because they're bringing it on themselves. (Oh, and I KNOW there are "exceptions" but, let's face it, most of the obese out there are obese because they aren't putting forth the effort to not be obese.) |
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 sixclaws13
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
2321 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:31:59 PM
Saragato, you're also 18. Your body can handle obesity now. Wait 10 or 15 years and it will have taken some serious damage. |
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sixclaws13
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
2321 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:30:31 PM
"Saragato"I bet your asthma would greatly improve with weight loss." I've had this condition since I was three. Ironically, it's better than it used to be." And I bet it would improve even more with weight loss. |
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 RoyCassanova
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
59 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:38:11 PM
drat fat people, taking up 2 or 3 seats on the bus. and it always smells like ass and cheetos around them |
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 Rick_S
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
2860 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:24:47 PM
@Philomath: I get mine through work in NY State. My Employer gives me a bunch of options, and I pick the company I want to go with. The rates are the same for every employee in the company that chooses that product. The Americans with Disabilities Act prevents insurance companies from denying people based on disability, or charging different rates for it. Life insurance, however, is different. I suppose if your employer doesn't offer it, and you have to get it on your own, this might be different. But the article in question is about people getting it through work, so they should all pay the same. |
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 astridhaze
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
761 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:19:47 PM
Women are already charged more for health insurance than men. Insurance companies try and pass it off as having to do with gynecological needs, but it's really a scam to make more money.This is just another scam. What is the definition of obese? |
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 leesah
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1577 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:03:38 PM
@gcg: If you're healthy, you don't need joints replaced. It's not hard to drink milk throughout your life and a vitamin once a day to make sure you don't need a joint replacement.Giant heart attacks from fatty food that require you to be hooked up to various expensive machines, receiving individualized care in a hospital for many days, however... that'll cost you a bit more than vitamins and milk. |
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 cryndigo
Female, 30-39, Western US
23156 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:22:46 PM
it's about damn time |
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 madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
6407 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:03:00 PM
make the fat bastards pay more for airline tickets and clothes. put a surcharge on their snack foods too. |
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 Philomath
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
174 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:19:06 PM
@Rick_S: I don't know where you get your insurance, but it is certainly different than where I have looked. People with certain health risks are almost always charged more if not denied. Rates can be and are determined by things like age, gender, marital status, job description, etc. Perhaps your provider is just better than mine, but I'm pretty sure it's not illegal.@Djer: discrimination only counts for "protected classes." "Fat" and "ugly" are not protected classes and can be discriminated against by whatever unsavory individuals that choose to. 
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 gcghost
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
168 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:34:11 PM
Hmmmm, but if you think about it, do fat people really cost the health insurance companies more? The way I see it the healthy people would end up living longer and by the end they'd be taking buckets of pills, getting joints replaced and racking up all kinds of costs for specialized care just to keep functioning for many more years. So, shouldn't THEY be the ones paying more?  |
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 kribbe
Male, 18-29, Europe
2000 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:19:58 PM
i know that charging fat people for being fat is ridiculous but be optimistic for once and c that the "fat tax" actually is forcing people to loose weight, on the other hand i don't know if it's a good idea to force people into anorexia |
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 Djer
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
843 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:14:55 PM
One question: Wouldn't this be considered discrimination? I mean, sure, obese people are more likely to have health problems, but what would happen if insurance companies were to charge more for African Americans JUST BECAUSE they're more likely to contract cancer or heart disease, even if that person had no history of health issues? |
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Rick_S
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
2860 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:44:10 AM
You can't charge more for health insurance for people who are at higher risk. If someone is in a wheelchair with MS, they are at higher risk for several things, and already cost insurance companies more. Charging them more, however, is illegal.What you can do is offer rebates for stuff. Everyone is charged the same amount, but those who exercise, belong to a gym, take dance...get a $25 rebate. |
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 jsatan
Male, 18-29, Europe
256 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:15:11 AM
Blaming genetics is a joke, ha, ever seen a starving fat person??
Ever seen a fat person running a matron?
Doesn’t matter how bad your “genetics†are you don’t get obese from looking at food, you get obese from eating it.
I agree totally that if you are out of shape over weight, at a higher risk of developing illness then yes you should pay, just the same as we all pay higher premiums if we live in a high crime area (yes people in low crime area are victims of crime too).
Driving in a higher risk area, you pay higher premiums for that. It’s about time people who stay in shape and look their bodies get a financial reward. And for the comments regarding gaining weight no matter how little you eat, get your self over to a university and ask them to study you, you’re breaking the Laws of thermodynamics, you maybe the answer to our worlds energy issues. yeah |
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Kougaiji
Male, 18-29, Southern US
606 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:24:26 AM
Fat Tax? Thank God!Fattest country in the world.
99% of fat people CAN help. 99% of the time it's NOT glandular (when it is, it is usually apparent at very young ages). |
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 Saragato
Female, 18-29, Southern US
724 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:18:14 AM
"I bet your asthma would greatly improve with weight loss."I've had this condition since I was three. Ironically, it's better than it used to be. |
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 grandmasterz
Male, 18-29, Southern US
289 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:05:25 AM
"Those considered obese or who have high blood pressure, high cholesterol or high glucose will have to pay $25 a month more in health insurance beginning in January 2011, if they don't take steps to address their health problems."It sounds like if they can prove they've taken steps to address health problems by 2011 they won't be affected. I wonder what the language of the bill is. I'm with dang007 on his definition of health insurance as well. |
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sixclaws13
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
2321 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:48:21 AM
"I'm overweight and I don't have more health problems than my thin friends. In fact, the only time I ever really need to see the doctor is when I get a cold or have asthma problem"I bet your asthma would greatly improve with weight loss. |
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 ne028
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1273 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:47:26 AM
just because youre not morbidly obese doesnt mean youre anorexic, lose some god damn weight |
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sixclaws13
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
2321 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:46:49 AM
Good. It's probably technically illegal, but something needs to happen. |
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 cheeznipz
Female, 13-17, Western US
47 Posts
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Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:18:42 AM
lol thats hilarious! XD but still wrong.. |
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