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Dear Mr. Obama Part 2: Economics 101

Hits: 6519 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: primetimekin
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16861 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:18:52 AM
Vindicate: My mother was a nurse too and she loathed the idea of "Canadian Style" Gov't health care.

If that sort of health care is so popular then why are Canadians paying extra to get transplants here in the USA ? Think dealing with an HMO is bad ? Dealing with the Gov't is worse, I know. I'm on Gov't health care right now and its no picnic having to get permission from them to get treated.


Vindicate
Female, 18-29, Western US
 541 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:06:40 AM
Considering my mom's in the healthcare industry and has to deal with bastard insurance companies all day - universal healthcare sounds like a damn good idea. It never made sense to me to have some people insured and not others.

As for this video - utter crap. I'm sure McCain's economic policy is so much better, since it's pretty much like Bush's. And, after all, the economy is THRIVING at the moment. Oh wait... foreclosures rising? Unemployment rising? Oops... sorry. Something needs to happen to give the economy a swift kick in the rear.

Whether that's Obama or not, I can't say. But it definitely needs to be something different than what Bush has done. And I really don't think McCain (Bush's twin, it seems) would be that person. And Palin's just all around useless.


flying_ltj
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 340 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:04:30 AM
Doomsaying 101 would be more like it.

I guess its just easier for some people to sleep at night after attempting to seed terror in the voters while hiding your face... Might as well have a black hood on and be speaking arabic. Not to mention, someone needs to pick up a history book and learn how much worse Hoover was than Carter.


CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16861 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 11:50:48 PM
No society has ever taxed itself into prosperity.

orionsbelt
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 151 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 11:43:44 PM

Hockey moms

Because they make great Vice Presidents...


rasputin3x
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 80 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 11:43:01 PM
Stentorian you are bang on target

orionsbelt
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 151 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 11:40:03 PM
but don't worry...McCain won't inhibit your gun rights in any way...

he believes instant criminal background checks must be conducted really fast to ensure that unnecessary delays do not effectively block transactions.

John McCain has opposed "waiting periods" for law abiding citizen's purchase of firearms.

He opposes bans on assault weapons and high capacity magazines


John McCain

Because I need my gun right the fu*k now...


Stentorian
Male, 13-17, Western US
 1044 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 11:33:20 PM
I may disagree with Obama on some significant points, but I still very strongly prefer him over McCain. Besides, the president doesn't make decisions on their own.

Stentorian
Male, 13-17, Western US
 1044 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 11:32:53 PM
What an ugly shirt.

Then all the contrived hand gestures and scripted speech.

I do agree somewhat though. I think the government needs to be small and I dislike socialist policies greatly. I don't think the middle class necessarily needs tax breaks as badly as everyone is raving about...though the taxes on the richest could be raised back to pre-Bush levels. Especially considering the way in which corporations are taxed at the moment.

Just regarding items brought up in this video, I don't want to see more spending on socialist programs (dislike the concept of social security, wary of universal health care, ...) and hope for a wisely-reformed taxation system.

But that doesn't mean I think the Republican Party is the right choice. Sure this guy makes Obama seem like a terrible decision, but that's because he supports McCain. When one hears a single side of an argument that side commonly sounds the better.


orionsbelt
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 151 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 11:32:28 PM
he means less government in a very narrow sense...

it is john mccain who is against abortion, he is also against gay marriage (he wants the states to decide if you can marry someone or not)

if that isn't control then i don't know what is...


yen223
Male, 18-29, Asia
 343 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 11:29:54 PM
There's just so many things he said which is just plain wrong.

Then again, HE CAN MAKE WORDS APPEAR OUT OF THIN AIR! CAN OBAMA DO THAT? DIDN'T THINK SO!


tnaran
Male, 30-39, Canada
 211 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 11:12:24 PM
The non-partisan groups who checked McCain's math and Obama's math said McCain's has a bigger deficit.

His argument on taxes is... retarded. China, Japan and Europe has much larger taxes and are out performing the U.S.

And stagflation was inherited from Nixon.

Socialistic -- this shows the guy is a right-wing doofus who knows how to spout off but isn't aware that the right-wing politicians have grown the government faster than liberals.

I sometimes think America doesn't deserve Obama.


NYnewburgh
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 33 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 11:05:19 PM
im surprised the republicans and the mainstream media havnt made more of an issue over Obama's economic plan which sort of scares me, and i like obama. all i see are wall street ppl making a big deal over it, and ul only see that on CNBC. and unless ur an investor, not many ppl watch cnbc.
and to crakrjkr : i already know all that, im just saying that the republicans can sometimes be hypocrytical in thier actions and yet avoid scrutiny over it.

kenny_f
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 1849 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 11:02:07 PM
And what do you call what happened during this presidency? an affect of the enviroment? do you really think mccain will do better?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16861 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 10:55:28 PM
kenny f: I certainly don't want to have to live through another "Jimmy Carter" like presidency.

"I told ya so" doesn't ease the pain of stagflation, gas lines, and unemployment (like we had under Carter).


Hungwell
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 411 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 10:54:28 PM
Thanks for posting this
I've been irritated over my lack of knowledge to make an educated vote

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16861 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 10:50:20 PM
NY: We have lots and lots of existing regulations involving banking, corporations, etc...

Regulation is different than taking things, Like heath care, Over completely.

The FDIC guarantees or banks, Its a very good thing. The banks pay into the FDIC fund when they get federal reserve bank loans. In turn if a bank is about to fail, It is the Gov'ts responsibility (by law) to protect a banks depositors up to $100,000. This "takeover" will be temporary and "fannie" and "freddie" will probably return (maybe in a few years) with better guidelines for giving out loans.


NYnewburgh
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 33 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 10:43:40 PM
its not an issue of right or wrong, its informing ppl on how things rly are. to fully describe the resolutions each candidate has for a real serious issue. Without informed ppl, they will vote on who "they wanna have a beer with" or not vote for obama cuz it sounds like osama. ( trust me theres ppl like that ). and so when someone asks you why you like one guy over the other, u have a real answer. instead of " cuz hes black " or " cuz he believes in jesus " .

kenny_f
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 1849 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 10:38:23 PM
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with thinking, it's just that it seems very futile to be attacking someone's policy when you are incapable of deciding if that person is worthy of being the president. I mean, if this guy is right, all it would prove is being able to say "I told you so!" in a few years.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16861 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 10:35:16 PM
Another good link Prime

opiebreath
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 16061 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 10:33:50 PM
Kenny, I disagree.

I think these make great space for discussions. Political thinking doesn't have to start at 18.


djmofo117
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 31 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 10:29:52 PM
i got my voter registration card the other day only reason i say that is cause my 18 birthday is a little less a month away from the actual voting day (early oct.) it said i have to be 17 years 10 months to register and 18 by the time i vote which i was very happy to see i made the requirement for.

NYnewburgh
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 33 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 10:23:49 PM
but i do have to say Obama biggest weakness is his economic plan. i dont kno the exact details but from wat i kno, he plans on raising taxes on ppl who make 250,000 dollars a yr or more. this is gonna hurt small and local business owners, since most of them file taxes individualy. which means less jobs, and less of alot more things. i dont wanna get into it. but i stil vote obama. one guy doesnt have supreme power over what happens, hes gonna have smart ppl around him to fix things.

kenny_f
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 1849 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 10:21:34 PM
But you can't, and you never have, so what would you know about it?

unreedemed
Male, 13-17, Western US
 546 Posts
Friday, September 12, 2008 10:21:27 PM
*deep breathe*

LUXURYTAX,MARRIAGETAX,SOCIALSECURITYTAX...


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