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Dear Mr. Obama Part 2: Economics 101

Hits: 6519 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: primetimekin
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pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:29:24 AM
McSame and (no experience in Washington but I'll learn as I go) Palin are not fit to lead a country and our troops, and thinking they will and supporting them is idiotic, and makes you, as usual stubborn as a mule, and I guess you're just supporting them because you're Republican too, and only support people based on party, not on experience, or leadership.

pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:28:37 AM
Prime, stop getting your "facts" from people's videos online, and websites, and start actually reading facts, and what is true about what each canidate will do.

Obama actually has a realistic and believable plan, that is believable and he knows how to achieve these goals with responsibility. (and since you obviously have not watched the entire speech Obama gave, you don't realize he is a true leader. Put together, Obama and Biden are a strong team of true leadersthat will revive America after two republican "leaders" (that McCain supports) destroyed our country. (Still supporting Bush/Cheney at this point is idiotic).

The liar team of McPalin not only said the exact same things, but spent most of the time instead trashing Obama and Biden, and I actually watched the Republican convention, and the whole time I was shaking my head wondering how people believe these people are telling the truth and are leaders


slayjordan
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 13 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:25:03 AM
First up.

mrtatulas

I highly doubt ANY of that information is correct, in fact, I KNOW that it isnt.

Lets see, the war started March 20, 2003.
That's 2004 days ago.

And you say that we have spent 570 billion dollars on the war. Okay. I highly doubt that is the correct figure, I'd say it is much larger.

So lets do that math... AH!

284,431,137 each day. That's not quite 300 million... Sure, it is close, but anyone that thinks 15 million shouldn't count should just give it all to me then.

86,400 seconds in a day.

285 million (roughly) / 86,400

Wow.... 3,298 dollars a second. Whoa. That's a lot of money. But it's NOWHERE CLOSE to the 30,000 a second you claimed.

In fact, for it to be 30,000 a SECOND, we would have to be spending approximatly 2.6 BILLION a day, or a total of 5.2 Trillion dollars for the entire war. That's WELL over the actual estimated economic impact of the war.

The sad part is you have people like gorgack2000 believing you. Hence the power of t


primetimekin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 8111 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:17:17 AM
"HOPING they will give it back down to us poorer folk is just being ignorant. Wake up, we're in the real world."

Wakes up.... Didn't reagan do that.. and it worked... I love Reaganomics.


Thats why you always see more fiscal conservatives than liberals (what are they called these days, is it Reagan Democrats?)

"His tax breaks aren't going to hurt big businesses as much as this says; they're not going to have to lay off a whole bunch of people in the way it describes and its not going raise inflation that rapidly."

You mean the same way Liberals said the minimum wage increase wouldn't hurt anyone and the next day Ford laid off 30000 people.


primetimekin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 8111 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:14:51 AM
"My friends, there is a big elephant in the room this man is avoiding fully. Spending on the Iraq war... 570 billion dollars since it began? That's more than $300 million a day... over $30,000 per SECOND... It was something that did not need to be done, mistake or not, it was not a necessary part of what the US government needed to do. A huge misdirection in funding... you know what taxpayers are REALLY paying for now? They're paying for people to die."

1.He is for a 5 year removal plan.
2. the war helped us out in so many ways. Right before the war started hollywood was really struggling. This war led to so many movies, media coverage, post on IAB...

"government itself is basically an epic fail. i went to a catholic school and i'm now finding i am quite a bit ahead of my classmates in high school. once again no my age isn't right."

My AP english teacher is teaching us what she taught students at a 20k a year school in 6th grade.


primetimekin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 8111 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:12:34 AM
"As for this video - utter crap. I'm sure McCain's economic policy is so much better, since it's pretty much like Bush's. And, after all, the economy is THRIVING at the moment. Oh wait... foreclosures rising? Unemployment rising? Oops... sorry. Something needs to happen to give the economy a swift kick in the rear."

Under Bush we went to the highest GDP of all time, after a major increase there is always a temporary recession, always has, always will

Foreclosures are the fault of bankers and people who took out loans in markets that didnt have financial backgrounds.


"I vote for a damn change. I'm freaking tired of 8 years of the same damn thing."

Hope is a good breakfast, but a bad supper.


Anish
Male, 13-17, Canada
 514 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:11:38 AM
ELECTION SPOILER:

*John McCain wins*


starrstreet
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 400 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:01:37 AM
Sometimes you have to admit that what you want to accomplish may never realistically be reached in a time frame that justifies all the money wasted.

starrstreet
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 400 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:58:45 AM
Also, can someone explain to me what "victory" means over there? I mean cause that's what people talk about, we're not leaving til there is a victory. General Petraeus even said that this isn't that kind of war that the word victory can be applied to.

So if there is no "victory" why do some criticize the people who want to leave are okay with losing this war? If there is no victory then leaving wouldn't mean defeat.


Dragonlord
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 742 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:54:58 AM
You must all remember that, because this guy has no head, he is a terrorist from the group Anonymous.

(+1 point if you get the callback)


gorgack2000
Male, 13-17, Europe
 4702 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:33:37 AM
"My friends, there is a big elephant in the room this man is avoiding fully. Spending on the Iraq war... 570 billion dollars since it began? That's more than $300 million a day... over $30,000 per SECOND... It was something that did not need to be done, mistake or not, it was not a necessary part of what the US government needed to do. A huge misdirection in funding... you know what taxpayers are REALLY paying for now? They're paying for people to die. "
Sir, you are correct in every possible fashion.

starrstreet
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 400 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:28:05 AM
Even Ben Stein disagrees with this economic plan of Bush and McCain and he is a huge republican/conservative supporter.

He at least can step back and go WOAH WOAH WOAH this is not about politics right now, our economy is sick and we cannot keep doing what we are doing now.


starrstreet
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 400 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:25:15 AM
Oh yes, giving tax breaks to businesses that outsource is even better! Taxing only a small percentage of very rich peoples income is awesome too, whereas I, most of us, get taxed on 100% of it. Also, keeping greedy people with all the money/power HOPING they will give it back down to us poorer folk is just being ignorant. Wake up, we're in the real world.

You forget that those people getting the tax breaks in Obama's plan are going to be putting that money into the economy right away. Lets just say its 80% who gets those tax breaks, that is 240 million people spending that money and giving it right to businesses.

His tax breaks aren't going to hurt big businesses as much as this says; they're not going to have to lay off a whole bunch of people in the way it describes and its not going raise inflation that rapidly.

Also small businesses are going to be protected and not hurt by his economic plan.

Alternative - the way it is now, don't forget that.

(I'm studying economics)


airsofter1
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1089 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:20:35 AM
government itself is basically an epic fail. i went to a catholic school and i'm now finding i am quite a bit ahead of my classmates in high school. once again no my age isn't right.

mrtatulas
Male, 18-29, Canada
 272 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:19:32 AM
My friends, there is a big elephant in the room this man is avoiding fully. Spending on the Iraq war... 570 billion dollars since it began? That's more than $300 million a day... over $30,000 per SECOND... It was something that did not need to be done, mistake or not, it was not a necessary part of what the US government needed to do. A huge misdirection in funding... you know what taxpayers are REALLY paying for now? They're paying for people to die.

fuguthenub
Male, 18-29, Asia
 70 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:40:49 AM
hello, im not from the U.S.A. and i dont give a poop about this poop.

kairobert
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1634 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:48:52 AM
Meh, capitalism sucks.

yellowsquare
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1602 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:47:32 AM
And his hand movements totally distracted me from his message. Mesmerizing.

globpharm
Male, 18-29, Europe
 198 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:03:48 AM
Americans lost our freedoms that is why i was left.

yellowsquare
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1602 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:56:35 AM
"People who go for liberal ideas go that way because the media is liberally-run."

You can't possibly be asserting that all people are naturally born conservative but are warped by the liberal media?

People can tend to liberal viewpoints without the influence of the media. It happens quite frequently, in fact.


Surfingninja
Female, 18-29, Western US
 743 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:51:38 AM
Also: *cough* communism *cough*

Surfingninja
Female, 18-29, Western US
 743 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:50:40 AM
The problem here is that people fail.

PreoSmo
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 466 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:57:15 AM
Every dystopic book is about a society that is dystopic due to liberal's taking over. I believe whole-heartedly that if we keep going the socialist's route that we are, and suppressing language to avoid offense, trying to make everyone equal when no one's the same, and giving the government more control, we are going to end up like Orwell's vision, or Bradbury's.

People who go for liberal ideas go that way because the media is liberally-run. Argue my point all you want but go to a bookstore and go the magazine section. You'll see all sorts of tabloids about the candidates. All the obama ones are 'he's our savior' and all the mccain/palin ones are 'shocking family issues!'

People don't do research before they make a decision politically. They just take what the media spoonfeeds them and argue about stuff they don't understand.

Socialism, in a perfect society, is fine. But in real life, taxes are raised, and freedoms are lost.


CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16745 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:26:39 AM
Change for change's sake isn't a good idea... Change can be bad too you know.

Obama is about change and hope all right, He changes his promises and hopes no one notices.
He thinks he can be everything to everyone.
When in fact, He is nothing to no one but himself.


RickyGTO
Male, 18-29, Western US
 291 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:19:00 AM
I vote for a damn change. I'm freaking tired of 8 years of the same damn thing.

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