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Dear Mr. Obama Part 2: Economics 101

Hits: 6521 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: primetimekin
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pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:25:34 AM
For nearly two years, using vision, innovation, technology, intelligence, endurance, tactical genius, and a strong macro management style, Barack Obama has shown us all exactly what his executive skills are. He defeated a well oiled political national machine in the process, one that the Republicans have yet to defeat (not from lack of trying), doing so with all of the deck stacked against him, and the race card being played by the media at every turn. The unified convention that the Democrats pulled off, despite the constant 24/7 media hype promoting chaos, is a full demonstration of Barack Obama's leadership abilities as well as his executive acumen and skills at being a unifyer.

Also, Barack Obama is the author of 2 best selling books, which has earned him millions and he writes his own speeches, one which electrified the nation 4 years ago. His most recent speech was seen by over 40 million households, beating the viewership of the opening Olympic Ceremony or American Idol.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:25:09 AM
Barack Obama has also been a law professor at the University of Chicago, and a civil rights attorney. Both jobs provided much experience and the requirement of a fluent working knowledge of our constitution and a thorough understanding of how government works.

Barack Obama became a United State Senator 4 years ago, and represents the 5th most populous state in the Nation. He has passed major legislations, and has sat on major committees, both on domestic and foreign issues. He has worked closely with those associated as the top leaders in our government and he has passed important bipartisan bills that have affected 300+ million Americans.
Further, Barack Obama started a presidential campaign from scratch, and in so doing, created the best ran political organization our history has ever witnessed, shattering records after records.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:24:52 AM
Twenty years ago, Obama was elected President of the Harvard Law Review, an office that required executive experience to get the job done. The Presidency of the Harvard Law Review is not simply a title, meaning, the President actually has work that he/she does. In addition, Obama has attended the best schools in this country, is highly educated, and holds a Law Degree. Barack turned down prestigious offers, and instead managed Project Vote in Chicago in 1993. That year, via his executive and organizing skills, Barack was seen as key in putting another Democratic Senator into the senate. That's call results. 1.http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Maga... ... /

Barack Obama was also a State Senator for 8 years. Again, he was elected to that office, and his district's constituents numbered in the hundreds of thousands. He drafted laws and passed legislation that effected the 12+ million who resided in the s


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:24:31 AM
Maybe Americans can have it all, but I question the wisdom of the mother of 5 young children believing that she can give them what they truly need (especially since one as special needs) and work a job that, to be done well, is a round the clock proposition. Which rationally leads one back to the sanity of the person that believed that this was the setup for a good situation.

In reference to Barack Obama's qualification for becoming President, the first is that he contested in the primary elections, was thoroughly vetted, and won his party's primary. In otherwords, he interviewed for the position, and got the job because he earned it. In America, the people get to decide who has enough experience, and it was determined that Barack Obama does.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:24:12 AM

John McCain is running against Barack Obama. As a 72 year old man who has fought four bouts of Melanoma, his task at hand, and his most important executive decision to make was to select a Vice President that would be ready for the job of running this country if needed. With his choice of Sarah Palin, he demonstrated that his motto is "Win First, Country be damned".

To compare Sarah Palin's experience of running a town of 8,000+ people into the ground, or governing Alaska, the 48th most populous state in the nation for not yet 2 years to Barack is improper, as she is to be compared to Joe Biden, since they are running for the same job.

Alaska experienced an oil boom shortly after she was sworn in (just see when the price per a barrel of oil shot up), and to credit her is ludicrous. She may be a nice person who hunts and fishes, but this is a big election which will not be about small things such as who can shoot a gun the furthest.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:23:40 AM
oh, and here's a little more truth for those who think Palin's more qualified, and has experience...

pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:21:57 AM
Sorry prime, the media is indeed strongly leaned towards the Right. It's not laughable, It's the truth, and it's what our country needs badly.

primetimekin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 8111 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:19:59 AM
"Except there is no such thing as liberal media."

Are you serious?

Ok thats it, im leaving. I took you seriously up to that point.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:17:53 AM
6point02, most of what you said is understandable.

Except there is no such thing as liberal media.

Think about it. These news channels are owned by corperations, and Republicans support the large majority of them giving money to those higher ups in companies and. As a result, news channels tend to praise the right.

Fox is so right winged that they trash any person who says anything left winged, and treat them like 3rd class citizens. (just watch the documentary "outfoxed"

Even MSNBC (owned my microsoft) is right winged, only featuring Keith Oberman and Rachel Maddow on there (both liberals), because it's making money for their corporation.

So calling news channels "liberal" is not only complettely wrong, it's actually sad, because as long as republicans give money to corporations and corporations pay for these news stations, media will never be politically balanced.


primetimekin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 8111 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:15:52 AM
"She has JUST has much experience as Obama?"

Well actually, she has more executive experience than he does.

"Watch the entire Obama campaign. He clearly is ready to lead a country with a strong vp. (you obviously weren't paying attention, or just being ignorant, during his speech."

I had to write a report on his speech, my teacher is extremely liberal, and I still got an A. It didn't impress me at all.

"Palin has just been a senator in a nowhere town in Alaska. "
She was a Governor, actual executive experience.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:10:09 AM
She has JUST has much experience as Obama? For the last time, start actually reading facts, and not just making up propaganda.

Watch the entire Obama campaign. He clearly is ready to lead a country with a strong vp. (you obviously weren't paying attention, or just being ignorant, during his speech.

Palin has just been a senator in a nowhere town in Alaska. Even then, before he picked her, McCain met her just once. To just make a decision on the spot like that is one of the MANY reasons that McCain is irresponsible, and he is not a strong leader.

And a republican using the word "truth hurts"?

Please just start paying attention more in High School history and civics classes as you clearly do not understand the differences between the parties.

Americans need to unite and vote for a positive CHANGE, and for two true leaders (Obama and Biden). Not an ECHO of the last 8 dark years filled with more lies and financial troubles for Americans (McSame and Palin).


6point02
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 73 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:05:11 AM
how about people stop worrying so much about who everybody else is voting for? people should vote on the issues. pizza, you say republicans are followers and just go along with what other people say. but the media is clearly biased to the left. you probably wouldn't notice that, because it doesn't bother you. you say palin has no experience, but in reality the she is the only candidate this year who HAS executive experience. i'm not here to try and persuade anybody who to vote for, because that isn't my decision to make. but if you really have a problem with "followers" you wouldn't be here promoting any candidate.

primetimekin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 8111 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:52:48 AM
"Obama DOES have experience in Washington."

You mean a freshman senator who spent half of the time campaigning?

"I bet you think he has a plan for the env, and he'll stop gas prices from rising."

1. The oil Bubble burst. People aren't speculating as much as before
2. Its supply and demand. Opec has the supply, we demand they release more. but since that wont happen, nothing will drive gas prices down.

"I bet you think his VP is experienced enough in politics to lead our entire country and troops."
No, but she has just as much experience as Obama, so I'll go with McCain.

"...Truth hurts doesn't it?"

I was going to say the same thing to you. All you're doing is posing questions as fact.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:48:43 AM
Sorry Prime, Obama DOES have experience in Washington, and actually has a VP with Washington political experience. Your rebuttals are mere guesses about politics and the truth.

So I guess you think McCain has an ajenda he plans to keep and he actually has a plan to get our troops out of Iraq and go after the REAL terrorist who cost thousands of people their lives on 9-11.

I bet you think he has a plan for the env, and he'll stop gas prices from rising.

I bet you think his VP is experienced enough in politics to lead our entire country and troops.

It's simple, McCain and Palin follow what all republicans follow. Lies, false promises, and more money for corporations than the middle and lower class. Lies, lies and more lies.

...Truth hurts doesn't it?


The_Maddog
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3192 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:40:49 AM
I'll make this simple.

"Dear citizens of the USA: Your choice this November will affect the entire world. As citizens of other nations, we urge you to vote -- and, when you do so, to consider global issues like climate change, human rights, poverty, and peace. Our futures are intertwined. So when you vote, remember us."

The World Wants Obama

Do the right thing please!


primetimekin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 8111 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:40:45 AM
"Obama actually has a realistic and believable plan, that is believable and he knows how to achieve these goals with responsibility. (and since you obviously have not watched the entire speech Obama gave, you don't realize he is a true leader."

I did see it, he didn't part the waters like I expected him to

"(no experience in Washington but I'll learn as I go)"
I could've sworn you were talking about Obama


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:38:10 AM
And now the team that hopes to form the next administration is running a campaign that makes Bush-Cheney 2000 look like something out of a civics class. What does that say about how that team would run the country?

What it says, I'd argue, is that the Obama campaign is wrong to suggest that a McCain-Palin administration would just be a continuation of Bush-Cheney. If the way John McCain and Sarah Palin are campaigning is any indication, it would be much, much worse.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:37:48 AM
I'm not talking about the theory, often advanced as a defense of horse-race political reporting, that the skills needed to run a winning campaign are the same as those needed to run the country. The contrast between the Bush political team's ruthless effectiveness and the heckuva job done by the Bush administration is living, breathing, bumbling, and, in the case of the emerging Interior Department scandal, coke-snorting and bed-hopping proof to the contrary.

I'm talking, instead, about the relationship between the character of a campaign and that of the administration that follows. Thus, the deceptive and dishonest 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign provided an all-too-revealing preview of things to come. In fact, my early suspicion that we were being misled about the threat from Iraq came from the way the political tactics being used to sell the war resembled the tactics that had earlier been used to sell the Bush tax cuts.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:37:30 AM
conveying the impression that both sides are equally dirty.

They're probably also counting on the prevalence of horse-race reporting, so that instead of the story being "McCain campaign lies," it becomes "Obama on defensive in face of attacks."

Still, how upset should we be about the McCain campaign's lies? I mean, politics ain't beanbag, and all that.

One answer is that the muck being hurled by the McCain campaign is preventing a debate on real issues — on whether the country really wants, for example, to continue the economic policies of the last eight years.

But there's another answer, which may be even more important: how a politician campaigns tells you a lot about how he or she would govern.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:35:25 AM
So the whole story of Ms. Palin's alleged heroic stand against wasteful spending is fiction.

Or take the story of Mr. Obama's alleged advocacy of kindergarten sex-ed. In reality, he supported legislation calling for "age and developmentally appropriate education"; in the case of young children, that would have meant guidance to help them avoid sexual predators.

And then there's the claim that Mr. Obama's use of the ordinary metaphor "putting lipstick on a pig" was a sexist smear, and on and on.

Why do the McCain people think they can get away with this stuff? Well, they're probably counting on the common practice in the news media of being "balanced" at all costs. You know how it goes: If a politician says that black is white, the news report doesn't say that he's wrong, it reports that "some Democrats say" that he's wrong. Or a grotesque lie from one side is paired with a trivial misstatement from the other, conveying the impression that b


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:35:05 AM
This year, however, the McCain campaign keeps making assertions that anyone with an Internet connection can disprove in a minute, and repeating these assertions over and over again.

Take the case of the Bridge to Nowhere, which supposedly gives Ms. Palin credentials as a reformer. Well, when campaigning for governor, Ms. Palin didn't say "no thanks" — she was all for the bridge, even though it had already become a national scandal, insisting that she would "not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project or any other into something that's so negative."

Oh, and when she finally did decide to cancel the project, she didn't righteously reject a handout from Washington: she accepted the handout, but spent it on something else. You see, long before she decided to cancel the bridge, Congress had told Alaska that it could keep the federal money originally earmarked for that project and use it elsewhere.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:34:35 AM
Blizzard of Lies

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By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: September 11, 2008


Did you hear about how Barack Obama wants to have sex education in kindergarten, and called Sarah Palin a pig? Did you hear about how Ms. Palin told Congress, "Thanks, but no thanks" when it wanted to buy Alaska a Bridge to Nowhere?

These stories have two things in common: they're all claims recently made by the McCain campaign — and they're all out-and-out lies.

Dishonesty is nothing new in politics. I spent much of 2000 — my first year at The Times — trying to alert readers to the blatant dishonesty of the Bush campaign's claims about taxes, spending and Social Security.

But I can't think of any precedent, at least in America, for the blizzard of lies since the Republican convention. The Bush campaign's lies in 2000 were artful — you needed some grasp of arithmetic to realize that you were being conned.


pizzabob18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 368 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:33:11 AM
Plus, here's official proof the McCain team is full of lies, as they cause false controversy to the other party rather than admitting Obama/Biden are right - ..posting article..

slayjordan
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 13 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:32:23 AM
Based on what car you drive.

slayjordan
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 13 Posts
Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:31:35 AM
Secondly...

Just a scenario I'll throw out for you starrstreet.

First, lets look at the brackets.

For 2008, the Federal tax brackets for a single (unmarried) person are:[1]

* 10%: from $0 to $8,025
* 15%: from $8,026 to $32,550
* 25%: from $32,551 to $78,850
* 28%: from $78,851 to $164,550
* 33%: from $164,551 to $357,700
* 35%: $357,701 and above

^^Wiki.

Lets take 3 different people.

Bob drops out of high school, flips burgers at McDonalds for life. Earns 20,000 per year.

George goes through high school, gets a decent job making 40,000 a year.

Sam works his ass off, does himself proud, becomes a doctor or lawyer, makes smart investments, and makes 600,000 a year.

Sure, they should all pay on 100% of their income, but why should the man/woman who worked so hard to be successful, pay a higher PERCENTAGE than someone who doesn't really care?

That, in my opinion, is like a gas station charging different prices for gas based on


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