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Five Pakistani Women Buried Alive

Hits: 13839 | Rating: (3.5) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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Overmann
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 3156 Posts
Monday, September 08, 2008 6:07:24 PM
Aeladil, your pro-woman rant is tiresome. I can appreciate the plight of women in that culture but it has every bit to do with religion and the devout lack of evaluation of centuries-old tradition it encourages. And the problem isn't just the abuse of women, as you seem to think. (These women weren't abused, they were murdered, by the way.) The culture of violence brewing in that region isn't directed solely at women, although they do bear the brunt of it. No, the problem is much deeper than that, and we're not going to see any progress until Islam wholly and fully renounces violence and fear, which we're not likely to see in our lifetimes.

Aeladil
Female, 18-29, Canada
 524 Posts
Monday, September 08, 2008 5:35:43 PM
Atrocities like this happen despite the religion, faith, or ethnicity of those involved. Yes, they are more common in some parts of the world, but that doesn't mean women in the US and in Canada or England are any less likely to be abused. We have come a LONG way in the last 100 years alone; gaining the vote, working, and speaking out against work place harrassment. But we have so much farther to go.

What happened here is sick. What happens WHENEVER, WHERE EVER a woman is abused is sick.

A real man would know how to control his anger and frustration - rather than revert to a brutish, precivilization mindset.

The men that perpetrated these acts should be castrated and made to live as women for the rest of their days. Maybe then they will understand the depths of depravity certain parts of the world contain against the female sex.


Vagrant86
Male, 18-29, Western US
 2566 Posts
Monday, September 08, 2008 8:05:36 AM
qucik sand, breathe in breath out.. unless you are just a simple troll.

DrkAng3LxNat
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1081 Posts
Monday, September 08, 2008 2:45:47 AM
oh and quick_sand8

can you uh... cut down on the ellipses a bit?

you say us young people should be doing stuff to help. well, have you yourself done anything to help?

if so, please, enlighten us as to some of your doings, but if you're going to bitch at the rest of us for not doing anything when you're not, that's kinda messed up


DrkAng3LxNat
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1081 Posts
Monday, September 08, 2008 2:42:53 AM
oh my god...

that's disgusting!

why does it always take something big like people being tortured or even killed for an issue to be recognized and steps taken?!


davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Monday, September 08, 2008 12:53:49 AM
quicksand, keep taking those meds, doll.

apermal
Male, 18-29, Asia
 326 Posts
Monday, September 08, 2008 12:36:36 AM
Phoenix6, you're Pakistani from the UAE? So am I! Christian? So am I? Who are you??? We might know each other. Anyway, yeah I agree with some of what you said, I just believe that people shouldn't be blaming Islam per se, just Muslim who're distorting what Islam is all about. You won't see what happened to those Baluchi women happening regularly in Karachi, just like you won't see David Koresh type people harping about all over New York.

quick_sand8
Female, 40-49, Southern US
 474 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:15:16 PM
WOW....since I posted my reply, many many comments!!!
It amazes me...
ALL these people.
With such verbal insight.
With such conviction as to what is going on in the world...where they come from.. what they see..what they are led to believe..what their opinion is...etc...etc...etc...
Are ANY of you making a difference?????????
Are you doing something about the atrocities that you proclaim you see?????
Us older people...Like generations before you...RELY on the YOUTH, to MAKE a difference!!
THAT, is how change comes about...
Or people would still be hanging from tree's!!!!!!!
I hope... really really hope... I have kids. Who have kids... and I HOPE some of YOU, make a difference!! I will leave this planet...and ya'll are left behind... and I HOPE, that YOU make some difference in this screwed up world......
The Violence.. Acid poured on someone's face..just because.........
C'mon!!!! that is brainwashed barbaric CRAZY...
it's 2008 for cryin' out lou

Ruswut
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1286 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:20:56 PM
Yeah I swear some people must at one point just bashed some other guy over the head and when given odd looks by everyone just have said.. "Eh... well... see... there's this big guy in the sky watching me and he told me to do it becasue... this guy was... wearing a funny hat? o.O?"

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 2:37:12 PM
www.religioustolerance.org/negative2.htm

"No other religion has extremists"? Get real.

Though I am not muslim, I can plainly tell that what these people are doing is not staying true to the vision of the Prophet. There is much history backing up Muhummad's commitment to gender equality. These people are mocking the faith they claim to embrace.


davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 1:53:55 PM
^^ "I'm not going to take the time to educate you on the Northern Ireland conflict on this thread."

Manorrd, f*ck off. I'm not rising to your sh*t stirring.


Ruswut
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1286 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 1:28:31 PM
Hmm although I'd say you probably know more on the subject of N. Ireland than me (didn't realise you were from Ireland) but still maybe you need to look into it a bit more, you're never too old to learn something even if you think you know all there is to know about it!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/04/qanda.schools

Yeah I mean I can agree the reasons it started were not becasue of religion as such but I lay bet if you had parade around N. Ireland at the time saying hey I'm Protestant they'd have beaten you to a pulp becasue of that.


Lionhart2
Male, 40-49, Australia
 8285 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 12:34:04 PM
> davymid
> Northern Ireland, do not tell me about Northern Ireland

Hey, what's wrong with Northern Ireland???? Its a lovely place! I've got an uncle lives there, he's rear-gunner on a milk van...


davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 12:17:08 PM
manorrd, with all due respect, don't go there brother. Ask me about Northern Ireland, do not tell me about Northern Ireland. Mmmkay?



trueninja
Male, 13-17, Europe
 112 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 12:13:14 PM
This sickens me

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:25:30 AM
I agree Ruswat. And thanks for the link... maybe others might learn something interesting- I'm from Belfast mate!

phoenix6
Female, 18-29, Australia
 409 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:21:15 AM
A lot of people here said this crap doesnt happen often. Im pakistani, and i live in the UAE. Sure, my family's way more modern...and christian but i know what goes on in both places and i think it's disgusting. Their religion is not necessarily the only thing to blame, but the ignorance of some of the people following it as well.

Ruswut
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1286 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:15:48 AM
davymid: http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/ch...

Religion causes too much conflict because humans are naturally evil... or at least a few are and too many are too stupid to not follow along


cookii
Female, 18-29, Europe
 1326 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:56:30 AM
Forced marriages aren't allowed in islam, and everyone has a choice as to who they marry. All these honour killings are usually by men who have a distorted view of what honour is, and control whatever they can.

boybeternow- the root word of islam is submission, as in sumbition to God and his wishes


Evelond
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 27 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:37:48 AM
"Ever heard of a Catholic suicide bomber?"

...forgive my tastelessness, but I call to the stand Rule 34... =_=


teph2112
Male, 13-17, Asia
 652 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 7:24:28 AM
With corruption comes evil.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:53:09 AM
^^ "To the guy who said that no other religion has extremists, you're wrong. Learn a little about Ireland."

Mate, if you knew a little about Ireland, you'd know the conflict there has f*ck all to do with religion- it's about nationality.

And anyway, hardly extremists... Ever heard of a Catholic suicide bomber?


Mistinguett
Female, 18-29, Europe
 53 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 4:15:15 AM
To the guy who said that no other religion has extremists, you're wrong. Learn a little about Ireland.

Mistinguett
Female, 18-29, Europe
 53 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 4:12:25 AM
People only seem to wear veils with pride once they are in a position to make the choice for themselves without being mutilated for it.

I think this is absolutely horrendous.


hamalina
Male, 18-29, Europe
 131 Posts
Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:49:40 AM
I wasn't surprised to hear that this happened in Baluchistan (an ethnic region spread over Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan). Women there are suppressed from even voting. Unfortunately, the law there is all in the hands of religious and tribal leaders, who are mostly suffering from the abovementioned small dick syndrome as well.

THIS IS WHERE THE HUGE DIFFERENCE IS. Warren Jeffs quickly became most wanted in US, eventually caught AND PUT IN PRISON, most likely FOR LIFE. Not even a word about investigation from the Pakistani police in that News report. Tough luck? Or maybe because they won't even move a muscle to try and catch the ones responsible?


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