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How's That For Democracy?

Hits: 13223 | Rating: (3.2) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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LemonTarte
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1451 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:45:35 PM
That teacher did a sick thing. You don't do that to children regardless of whether they have special needs or not.

I sympathised with the mother until:
"A lot of people think what they're doing is right, like, Al-Qaueda."

Then it just went downhill.


kenny_f
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 1849 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:41:10 PM
i say shenanigans

pomunium
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 77 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:41:09 PM
as horrible as the teacher sounds, i think there must be details left out of the mom's recap of what happened. I can understand if the teacher got angry with a kid who disrupts class and maybe might be a little violent. maybe she thought that some input from his peers would encourage him to behave well. the voting thing is messed up, but sounds to far fetched. no ones that evil, especially not if they work with toddlers

CZX11
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 181 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:04:23 PM
that teacher is such a bitch she needs to burn in hell

CZX11
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 181 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:03:53 PM
wow that teacher is a bitch and needs to burn in hell

Noodlez
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 131 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:52:12 PM
omg, that teacher is a bitch! my brother has autism.

Trexa
Female, 18-29, Europe
 285 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:17:37 PM
Why the hell would the teacher make the other children tell them what they don't like about the boy? Every child deserves to be taught with equality and stuff. We'd have to hear the teacher's side of the story, as well. But still... that was sick and wrong of her.

Bekll
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 1976 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:11:41 PM
"I'd be interested in knowing if this child has true 'special needs'. My guess is ADHD, in which case, he needs to take medication and his mother needs to discipline him instead of ignoring him."

Oh please... like 9 out of 10 kids diagnosed with ADD and/or ADHD don't have it. And medication -- at his age? In todays' world kids as young as two are taking very strong medication most likely when they have no problem at all - they're just acting like kids! In my Abnormal Psychology class, when this was discussed, one of the "symptoms" to look for was childishness. O_o Hello?! They're kids!


Bekll
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 1976 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:11:31 PM
So if the tv is on, the baby is screaming, there's a truck outside and music is playing and you're the wife of an Asperger's husband and you're telling him about dinner... it may seem like he's listening - but he's not. He'll completely forget about what you said. That's just one example. And Asperger's people tend to be VERY intelligent; they're not retarded, they just have mild autism. My boyfriend has Asperger's and he had a very tough childhood because of it. I feel like I'm the only one who knows him.

Even now, when he's in his mid-20s, people misunderstand the littlest things he does and they turn on him - becoming enemies and spreading lies about him like sexual assault -- while he's dating me.. for eight months even! It's ridiculous how people treat people who are different. It really is.

This little Alex boy just may very well have it too - and what this teacher disgustingly did is just the beginning of a long, hard road for him of disrespect and misunderstandings.


dougsimpson
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2296 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:10:01 PM
I have had some experience with Asperger's... He appears to be further up the AQ scale than Asperger's.

Oh, the teacher should be taken out and shot.


Bekll
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 1976 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:04:55 PM
"also i do have a cousin who has aspergers, and i do love him to death and he is family, but i'm not going to lie, he can get annoying and his behavior can become irratic, from being calm from moment to bitting me the next, also he can't eat with the family, something to do with sound coming from many directions causes him to freak out, that's just one of the symptoms and not always a symptom that and because of this is parents shelter him completely, so you know that gamer who is a complete shut in and doesn't have any social skills, take that and minus the gaming, once i love him to death, but it can be annoying"

Asperger's ranges from person to person.
"something to do with sound coming from many directions causes him to freak out"
This is because they're sensitive to sound - they can't concentrate on one thing when there are too many sounds coming from different directions.


fghj
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 398 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:42:51 PM
sickening

NumbuhZero
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 862 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:34:02 PM
I can't blame the kids for it.
The mentally disabled need to be kept in a separate room, so as not to drool on others crayons and such.

greengiant
Male, 13-17, Europe
 686 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:32:16 PM
I feel sorry for the kid but nobody should treat him specially and NOBODY should treat him like that teacher did. He would be better off if everyone treated him normally, that's the best way to learn social skills.

hehehenerd
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 13943 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:31:00 PM
what a controversial delimma

White_Wolfos
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1155 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:22:10 PM
Teacher's a bitch.
Mom seemed like a bitch.
Feel sorry for the kid stuck between those two and autism.

catbarf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1314 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:11:05 PM
"caboose117: In the case of autists/Aspergers kids, the funds spent to "help the retards" may just amount to the same thing as funds spent on the gifted. Many autists are just as smart or smarter than Joe Average, they just lack the ability to understand "normal" social interactions."

Sure, they might. But whereas a gifted child is likely to be better than his fellow students in some way that will further his career, the autistic (for example) children are more likely to be unable to hold a job. So in the end, it's a matter of risk vs reward, and they're paying pennies for the promising but fortunes on the near-useless.


kenric08
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 2 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:06:54 PM
By the way... people who show asperger characteristics or who are actually known to have aspergers.

Albert Einstein.
Isaac Newton.
Bill Gates.
Henry Ford.
Hans Asperger.


catbarf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1314 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:03:56 PM
"I mean Christ, have none of you ever been picked on in your life? Was it all gumdrops and happiness and rainbows?"

You say that they must be integrated with students to learn social skills, then reverse 180 and say they need to be protected from their fellow classmates. Facts of life: People pick on anyone who's different. Trying to shield them from that isn't going to help when they're finally released into the world.


basketkase
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1183 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:01:01 PM
caboose117: In the case of autists/Aspergers kids, the funds spent to "help the retards" may just amount to the same thing as funds spent on the gifted. Many autists are just as smart or smarter than Joe Average, they just lack the ability to understand "normal" social interactions.

Caboose in New Jersey at least the amount of money spent on a special needs kids when i was in elementary school was about $1000 dollars a day for EACH student opposed to the Gifted who received about 75 cents a day for kids who could better the world


catbarf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1314 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:59:57 AM
"Society as a whole has too little respect for the mentally challenged."

So if someone is dumber than you, a little strange or annoying, it's okay to make fun of them, but if they're so messed up you can slap them with a sticker full of unpronounceable jargon, then suddenly they're untouchable and should be respected?

Come on.


Kalimdon
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 113 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:58:16 AM
That mom is lying about something. Am I the only one who elt that she seemed really fake on camera?

kenric08
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 2 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:57:55 AM
*sigh*

The comments I have seen have little or no knowledge of with Aspurgers is. My little brother has it, and Aspurgers kids are known to usually be highly intelligent, they just lack social skills. So retarded? I think not, considering my little brother scored a 1100 on the SAT and he is in 6th grade. They take some different classes to help with their social skills and motor skills, but they definitely do not need a "special ed" class to help learn. It is a form of autism, not mental retardation. The fact is that Aspurgers kids have a hard time understanding what people mean, whether or not they are joking or being serious, or reading peoples expressions. The kid probably has no idea the severity of what the teacher even did. You can't vote a kid out, no matter what the reason. That is what the head faculty have to decide in CLOSED DOORS, not for 6 year olds to decide in front of the child.


basketkase
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1183 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:57:42 AM
Someone had a rough childhood ahem ^^

yeah basically they do need to be separated
i had a special ed kid in my class in 5th grade it was a nuisance if anything he didn't even learn the same things as us and he had his own teacher teaching him how to count ducks in the back of the classroom if anything it was distracting because he would randomly make loud noises


Lauraly
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2300 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:51:37 AM
I should be shocked by most of the comments on here.. but frankly I'm getting pretty used to the ridiculous amount of ignorance on this site.

In many cases it is important for special needs children to be included in classrooms with "normal" children so they can learn better social techniques. Even if you think that Alex should have been put into a separate classroom with other special needs children, don't you think that the teacher standing him up in front of the class to be told by nearly everyone that he is basically a loser and no one likes him was horribly wrong? I mean Christ, have none of you ever been picked on in your life? Was it all gumdrops and happiness and rainbows? Learn to have some empathy.


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