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How's That For Democracy?

Hits: 13223 | Rating: (3.2) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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BellaEdward
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 30 Posts
Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:19:16 AM
this is for iamboredtoo: where'd you find i it wasnt true?

hitoshi92
Male, 13-17, Western US
 1 Posts
Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:58:54 PM
she just compare a kindergarten teacher to al queida, am i the only one who caught that?

Bridget49
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 230 Posts
Monday, June 02, 2008 4:57:52 PM
Okay, first of all, yes, kids with disabilities are disruptive, but does that mean they have to be hauled to a special school and treated as if they had a contagious disease?!
God, people, LISTEN TO YOURSELVES. Talking about a KINDERGARTENER like that!

And also, that little boy couldn't have been put into a special class because he had just been diagnosed. Up until then, they were probably convinced that he had ADD, or ADHD.

Anyways, that teacher needs to be FIRED. As soon as possible!
Alienating a little boy like that!
Can you imagine being stood up in front of your classmates and being told that you are annoying or dumb?
I can hardly imagine how bad this boy must feel after this whole ordeal.

[[I'm sorry if I am being a bit... angry, but my little brother is disabled, and hearing people talk about kids like him really upsets me.]]


iamboredtooo
Male, 18-29, Europe
 216 Posts
Monday, June 02, 2008 2:09:54 AM
it turns out the kid was NOT special needs in any way. he has neither aspergers nor adhd. he is just a naughty disruptive child having a negative effect on the ability of his peers to learn. his teacher had his peers explain to him what the effect of his bad behaviour was before voting to exclude him from the class for the day.

so it sounds like his attention grabbing mom tries to convince her naughty child that he has special needs to avoid her own responsibility for his bad behaviour - the result? one screwed up kid who according to his mom lays in bed saying "i'm not special, i'm not special" trying to come to terms with his mother's abuse towards him in trying to treat him as though he is.

the child is reported to have further lied about his teacher's actions, saying she physically abused him - something which the rest of the class have denied.

nasty mom makes nasty screwed up kid. hopefully more people in his life will tell him his behaviour is unacceptable.


Collussus_
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1 Posts
Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:52:34 AM
I just had to register to reply to everyones posts.

I have lived my life among normal children, i have PDD-NOS, a disorder close to Asperger, just less heavy. I've been on a school with "same" children and it just made me feel worse about myself. In a class Normal children are children you look up to, and try to be like them. That's better than any "special needs" class.

And in reply to woot45. Every person with Autistic disorders will not work in that way. If you'd tell me to stop being a moron i'd either ignore you, or kick you to death. That's how these disorders work. Asperger is even worse, they live in their own world. Making friends is bloody hard. You calling a kid with asperger a moron is such bull. You should get your head to the fact that there's not only normal people on this world. There's also the people who need extra help or have NO idea that they do anything wrong, even when they're told that they do something wrong they wont know. I'm done wi


Woot45
Female, 13-17, Western US
 2284 Posts
Friday, May 30, 2008 9:30:48 PM
I remember kindergarten very clearly, I was definitely past the stage where I sat in my moms lap and went 'waaahshghghh baaaaah ooh look purty thing I'll eat it'. Normal kindgergarteners are obnoxious and stupid enough, this kid is that and beyond as well as having mental problems.

There is no greater motivator for children than peer pressure, and having the entire class telling him to sit the hell down and stop being a moron just might help.


tjanator
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 146 Posts
Friday, May 30, 2008 9:22:11 PM
okay, so that kid really couldn't stop talking, yes. but NO KINDERGARTENER CAN. Come on. "Does your FIVE YEAR OLD have problems staying still? He may be stupid" no. And that mom didnt even seem sad. more like.. glad?

January16
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 236 Posts
Friday, May 30, 2008 10:37:51 AM
That a bunch of BS. I hate evil people. The kid didn't deserve that at all. I can't believe the teacher did that. What a complete douche B****. I'm a senior in high school now, and we have tons of ignorant a** kids in the class, but their a**es don't get voted out. WTF os wrong with people now and days?

Lauraly
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2300 Posts
Friday, May 30, 2008 9:06:51 AM
catbarf: You say that they must be integrated with students to learn social skills, then reverse 180 and say they need to be protected from their fellow classmates. Facts of life: People pick on anyone who's different. Trying to shield them from that isn't going to help when they're finally released into the world.
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When in the hell did I say that they needed to be protected? I said that the people posting here should have a little empathy. Unless you all lived a perfect happy childhood then you should have some idea as to what it must be like to be stood up in front of everyone and told that you're worthless. Failing actually having been picked on you should at least learn to empathize. Also, it is one thing to be teased by your peers and something else entirely to be called out by an authority figure who's job it is to help children resolve fights and discourage bullying, not encourage it.

derangedingo
Male, 13-17, Western US
 808 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:27:00 PM
everyone gives him sympathy, and he's troublesome, but it's not like anyone would ever vote him out of the classroom.

that teacher needs to be fired.

kindergartners are way more honest than grown-ups though.


derangedingo
Male, 13-17, Western US
 808 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:24:33 PM
Asperger's sucks. Kids who have it are f cking annoying in the classroom too.

I have an Asperger's kid in two of my classes in high school this semester. He's not stupid, but the main downside of the disorder is he doesn't understand diddlesh t about... basically, social interaction.

no one really likes him.. i'm nice to him but i've never really had a conversation longer than a minute with him, and it gets pathetic sometimes, too... he gets lost sometimes when we're doing Physical Education, and in Biology he's always interrupting class.


teiso
Female, 18-29, Australia
 856 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:34:47 PM
^ Agreed. And if I was a parent of one of the kids who voted, whether they voted for or against, I'd be angry at the teacher for teaching my kid the value that a person has less rights than their peers just because they have a disability or hard to get along with.

BrotherBob
Male, 18-29, Western US
 17 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:16:03 PM
To the two kids who voted to keep Alex in the classroom:

GOOD JOB, GUYS, I'm very, very proud of you! The world needs more people like you two in it.

If I were the parent of one of those two, I'd strut around all day with pride and shower my boy with gifts and take him to Chuck E. Cheese for supper for being so awesome!


PsychoSis11
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 235 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:00:52 PM
And if there are any typos or stupid errors, I'm sorry. Don't pick me apart for them...

PsychoSis11
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 235 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:59:11 PM
Astridhaze...I don't want to be mean or rude but I'm going to have to disagree with you. Aspergers is more than just a social thing. I have it and there are much more things I have to deal with. For example I have sensory and anxiety issues... I don't know if it's on the spectrum or not (I've heard from MANY different people it is), but it does have several Autism like symptoms...

astridhaze
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 761 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:42:30 PM
point.

Oh, and another thing, because you just didn't even bother to open up the DSM-IV for yourself and check the diagnostic criteria, "childishness" is not listed. Go figure.


angelbrat
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 177 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:42:20 PM
Also, to the comment about more money being spent on the slower kids, Uh, yeah. Because the super smart gifted kids don't really need much extra help. Where some one in special ed has to work twice as hard to get a C, barely get noticed at school, and have to deal with jerks all day. the gifted kids barely have to do anything, get special attention and awards up the butt (and every award has a freaking assembly, where we had to sit through and pretend we gave a crap, when all we really wanted to do was go back to class and..y'know..learn)Along with teachers who treated you like crap.

*Ahems* yes, I had a really..really bad time in school.


astridhaze
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 761 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:39:43 PM
Bekll:

Autism "spectrum"- if Aspergers were mild autism, then on a kid's diagnosis, the word Aspergers would not exist- it would be classified as "mild autism."
They are not the same thing, hence why there are different diagnostic criteria and classification in the DSM-IV.

I love how you just whip out an article from CNN to make your case. CNN is not a psychological journal for one, and second of all, the quotes you use say "may" be overdiagnosed and the medication "may" be overprescribed.

As for medication being overprescribed, that's because people run to the PCP's saying "my kid can't pay attention in school" and the doctor gives them an ADHD medication. There's no trip to a psychiatrist to make sure the kid actually has ADHD or needs medication... hence my point on misdiagnosed children.

As for your snide comment, I don't need to take my own advice because I actually know what I'm talking about; I don't need CNN to pad my


angelbrat
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 177 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:36:34 PM
I seriously think it is kindergarten teachers as a whole. I had a horrible kindergarten teacher who just about did the same thing to me, And I -know- I didn't do anything wrong or disrupt the class, I was so quiet half the kids didn't even know who I was. My neices both have gone through something where the teacher singles them out, and they -were- in special needs classes.

Seriously though, this teacher needs to be fired and her license be taken away ASAP.


Bekll
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 1976 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:10:49 PM
"Bekll, ADHD is actually underdiagnosed; it's typically misdiagnosed in the kids who "have it" and many kids are missed because they're primarily inattentive and not hyperactive."
ADHD is overdiagnosed.
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9909/01/adhd.o...

"A recent study says attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD, may be overdiagnosed, and the drug used to treat the condition may be overprescribed."

"Also, Asperger's is NOT mild autism..."
Yes it is. Asperger's is a mild autism spectrum disorder.

"Before going and stating you know all this stuff from a class you took, make sure you are learning the information correctly."
I wasn't citing the accuracy of anything from a class. Simply providing an example of how ADD/ADHD's symptoms are looked for in children.

I believe you should take your own advice.


nirvana_kid
Female, 18-29, Western US
 705 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:50:34 PM
I'm sorry i can't spell btw.

nirvana_kid
Female, 18-29, Western US
 705 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:49:01 PM
"Plenty of people who think what they are doing isn't wrong, like Al Queda"

"woah, hold on, let's not go there!"


harrydick
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 336 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:58:26 PM
Uhh, she brought up Al-Qaeda, wtf? I'd hit that.(The mom)

marencolleen
Female, 18-29, Western US
 527 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:11:58 PM
guess momma shouldn't have let some dude hop in her pants in the first place...

astridhaze
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 761 Posts
Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:16:10 PM
Bekll, ADHD is actually underdiagnosed; it's typically misdiagnosed in the kids who "have it" and many kids are missed because they're primarily inattentive and not hyperactive.

Also, Asperger's is NOT mild autism; it's completely seperate and usually involves a lack of understanding of social cues. Yes, people with Asperger's can be smart like anyone else, but it's not a result of Asperger's either.

Before going and stating you know all this stuff from a class you took, make sure you are learning the information correctly.

And if you want to question my credentials, I have a master's degree in psychology and am a practicing therapist working with children.


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