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Girl to be Boy

Hits: 14926 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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Radio_Jack
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 10 Posts
Friday, June 13, 2008 11:44:21 PM
"She has insulted the whole female population." -SilentAlarm

LOL Please she's made a small step who the whole world and thank god the judge allowed it for those who know what it's like.


Picasims
Male, 18-29, Canada
 24 Posts
Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:48:05 PM
Children as young as 6 sometimes know that they are in the wrong body.

Bridget49
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 230 Posts
Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:53:52 PM
That's not right.
I'm not saying I have any problem with people changing genders, but twelve?!
That's TOO young.

At twelve, you can barely decide what you want to do over the summer, let alone decide what GENDER you want to be!

That judge is not right in the head. >.<


RyuTsurugi
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 53 Posts
Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:11:38 PM
and THIS is why i hate news...ITS HER OWN F*CKING CHOICE!! you don't like it? to bad. her choice.Or his as the case may be.

PaulaJenel
Female, 50-59, Midwest US
 9 Posts
Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:56:08 PM
Fact; Transition is the only recognized treatment for a T/S person with a success rate of over 98%. Here are some links. Go educate your self people.

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/c...

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content...

http://www.kisa.ca/respect.html

http://www.mhsanctuary.com/gender/dsm.ht...

http://www.whosoever.org/v2Issue2/starch...


PaulaJenel
Female, 50-59, Midwest US
 9 Posts
Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:37:29 PM
There are some truly ignorant post here, and some good ones. First I am Transsexual so I might just know a little about this subject. Nazarene, you have several post about coming of hormones. This boy is not taking Hormones at this time, only meds to delay puberty. Why is that so hard to understand. There is no surgery planed, all there doing is giving this child a window of opportunity. There seem to be a lot of back seat Psychologist commenting here, why not take the ear plugs out and listen to the real ones. Unless you are Transsexual you have no idea what it is like.

Fact; Most T/S people are aware very early in life useually by age 5 - 6

Fact; Left untreated a T/S person will suffer long term depression, anxiety attacks, severe anger, many times do poorly in school, broken relationships, greatly increased risk of suicide. Treated a T/S person will go on to have a normal productive life, the suicide rate drops below the national averages.


tomboygirl12
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 327 Posts
Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:01:19 AM
I'm not saying this is completely right or completely wrong, but there is a very good reason she would want to do this considering how she's treated like a boy and her mother deserting her and such.

personally, i don't agree with surgery that "corrects" your appearance when its not really necessary (that includes sex changes, plastic surgery for a victim in a serious fire is not included in that) But you cant always change other peoples opinions with your own. oh well.


DDylan
Male, 13-17, Europe
 98 Posts
Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:29:01 AM
Nazarene, you are confusing what he is taking. Here in the UK, you can take hormone treatment at 16 (woot, i just became 16, I should be starting my sex change in a few months *crosses fingers*)

But he is taking hormone blockers, not hormones. Hormones are partly irreversible, and have all the things you say.
But hormone blockers are reversible.

Hormone blockers can only be taken, for FtM's, at age 12 max. It has to be done before puberty, obviously, if it's going to delay puberty. Puberty is irreversible. My puberty was at age 11. So I don't think he is at all early in his decision.


wangomango
Male, 18-29, Western US
 78 Posts
Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:14:32 AM
This again, I'm so over this stuff. Let her have two penis if she wants, who cares.

Apple_18
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 465 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:43:13 PM
I saw this thing on discovery health, where people went to cut off theyre own arms and legs because it was a "gut instinct" opiebreath, i dont know what was said past page one, but you seem pretty ignorant in your last post on that page. ....Otherwise, i agree with Nazarene. 12 year olds dont know what they want. ...i hope this kid, and others like it do get these changes and i hope that at least 75% of them were wrong in thinking thats what they wanted...just so me and Nasarene can laugh at them.

PopeBenedict
Male, 70 & Over, Europe
 643 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:27:56 PM
meh

Nazarene
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 187 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:30:27 PM
3r1n, It is not completely reversible. If she takes the hormones for any length of time her voice will be permanently altered, her clitoris will grow enormously, and she will suffer sever side effects is she ever quits the hormones.

SilentAlarm
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 57 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:25:50 PM
She has insulted the whole female population.

3R1N
Female, 13-17, Europe
 141 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:57:59 PM
the child cant have surgery until it is 18, its just she can have hormone blockers, so she doesnt become a woman.
She is doing anything completely irreversible now, she might change her mind.
But it gives her an option.

Then again, there are lots of cases of people who get gender reassignment surgery, who go back to the gender they were born.
Which makes me wonder if they actually thought it through.
How could you have life changing surgery, and then decide it was a mistake?


sleepingsun
Male, 18-29, Europe
 162 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:42:24 PM
Nazarene, you're making the assumption there that the child will want to come off the hormones. Chances are almost 100% the child will not stop taking the hormones, and so will not suffer the side effects. And misscutieroo, chances are equally high the child will not want to switch back if at 18 they decide to take the surgery, by then the child will have experienced life with a male body, and will know if it's what they want for the rest of their life, and so will not regret if they opt for surgery.

eeeriddler08
Female, 13-17, Western US
 377 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:11:59 PM
i dont think it is so bad. i would have made her wait a few years longer to ensure that is what she wants, because at 12 i know i was afraid of starting my period. that's common (at least in my group it was common). but, if she wants to be a boy, more power to her, i would have just made her/him wait a while longer.

misscutieroo
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1897 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:02:44 PM
then a month after the surgery, he/she will want to go back to it's original sex!

just my prediction


boredfjord
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 932 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:53:33 PM
Um. Am I the only one who thinks this is ok?

Nazarene
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 187 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:28:57 PM
If you extracted the cerebrospinal fluid from her brain and tested it you would find that her brain is female, just like the rest of her. The girl has delusions. It's npt a boy in the wrong body, it's a confused, delusional girl. Has anyone studied the long term effects of giving male hormones to a female? Once she starts the hormone treatements she has to continue with anrdogen treatments to prevent symptoms of hormone deprivation and osteoporosis. Is it a good idea to administer hormones that will bring about known medical problems to help someone live out their delusion?

JohnnyDude
Male, 18-29, Western US
 5 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:17:29 PM
I've heard of a woman who lived as a dog (no clothes, no blankets, no shelter except her 'mate' and a doghouse, with a friend taking care of her). Also, the man who modified his body to look like a lizard, down to the forked tongue and tattooed 'scales'. Transspecism. Maybe it will catch on.

StefanM
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 63 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:07:01 PM
"You can't change someone's mind, but you can change their body."

By that argument we should do away with the whole of psychology and counseling. But, for the sake of argument, let's say you're right. There is no possible way for her to be reconciled with her natural body (and I use feminine pronouns despite it being politically incorrect because it's the truth of the matter, which I value above anyone's personal feelings). Where do you draw the line? If I was born with the idea that I was actually a dolphin, and I could not be reconciled through therapy, should I try to have some transformational operation?

Now, you may say that she's not trying to change her species, which I think any of us would think is ridiculous. But, if I truly could not be happy in a human body, would I have the same support? If not, by what right do you place her pain and suffering over mine? If so, we're just going to have agree to disagree.


Berberry
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 164 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:04:47 PM
Wow, that is literally all i can say... and that... and that... and that..and that and that and that. and that :)

DDylan
Male, 13-17, Europe
 98 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:30:21 PM
(in reply to page 7 from stefan)

It is a physically problem. It is that the physical side does not match the mental side. They both don't match up. It's not because he's mental. You can't change someone's mind, but you can change their body.


DDylan
Male, 13-17, Europe
 98 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:27:32 PM
(that was replying to stefan's comments on page 6, I haven't read 7 yet, just so you know)

DDylan
Male, 13-17, Europe
 98 Posts
Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:26:49 PM
(I use "he" for politeness. It's enough being the wrong gender without society treating you as that)
Stefan, you are quite right that he will never EVER be a true male. But he has a much better chance than I do.

He, at an early age, will have delayed his female puberty. When he is older and can make an informed decision, he really is going to look like a he.

I am not.


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