 gchimmel
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 595 Posts
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Saturday, July 10, 2010 6:48:03 PM
It's funny looking at this post after Obama's been president for a year and a half. Especially the comments. |
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 Eika
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
29 Posts
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Sunday, May 25, 2008 9:02:37 PM
I think it's Obama. Realistically, he's more likely to get voted in than Clinton, and right now Republican doesn't have much chance. |
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 xp
Male, 30-39, Western US
543 Posts
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Saturday, May 24, 2008 8:46:36 AM
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/There you go PrKitty. Everything you could want to know about Obama's plan. |
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 PrKitty
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
371 Posts
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Friday, May 23, 2008 8:55:23 PM
Are you people stupid? Obama? I mean seriously, can one person tell me what he stands for without googling? He talks a lot about nothing. He has no real values or thoughts. You people are the death off us all. |
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xp
Male, 30-39, Western US
543 Posts
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Friday, May 23, 2008 4:38:58 PM
The difference being of course is that my diagram is based on facts and yours is just a red dot you placed on a political chart. |
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 SpacemnSpiff
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
101 Posts
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Friday, May 23, 2008 10:59:30 AM
I can find diagrams that support my argument too.
 Barack Obama is a Hard-Core Liberal. |
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 Kinga750
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
136 Posts
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Friday, May 23, 2008 10:51:53 AM
BroadwayLove, I agree with you that many of the current problems we face were remnants from Bill Clinton's failed policies. Just as many of them came before Clinton's time. We have been screwing up in lots of ways for a long time, but at the end of a presidential term there is only one pertinent question to sum up a leader's worth.Is the country better off now than it was before he/she took office? At the end of Bush's first term, the answer was a resounding NO. Nearing the end of his second, things are looking like they have gone even further downhill. Even with all the problems facing the country before he was elected, 8 years is enough time to make SOME progress. So even if Bush is NOT worse than any other president we have had, he has still failed as a leader by not doing any better. |
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SpacemnSpiff
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
101 Posts
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Friday, May 23, 2008 10:41:51 AM
xp, Obama is a State capitalist. What he calls a well regulated free market, I call a government controlled economy. As far as taxes go, Obama wants to raise them on the people and companies that provide many of the jobs in the US. Business owners are going to cut jobs to make sure they keep their profits up and their stock holders happy.
Europeans do not get "free" health care. They still have to pay for it through taxes. Obama's health care plan is going to cost an extra 50-65 billion dollars in new revenue. Which probably means another tax increase. |
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xp
Male, 30-39, Western US
543 Posts
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Friday, May 23, 2008 9:03:11 AM
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xp
Male, 30-39, Western US
543 Posts
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Friday, May 23, 2008 8:49:10 AM
So if you want to hate on Obama go ahead, I can't stop you. But don't pretend it's for some rational reason. Obama is a moderate when compared to the political spectrum you can find in any highschool textbook. Read his website, look at a diagram of political beliefs and figure it out for yourself. |
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xp
Male, 30-39, Western US
543 Posts
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Friday, May 23, 2008 8:42:50 AM
In many European countries everybody gets free health care whether they have insurance or not. They also get 4-6 weeks of paid vacation a year. Wealthy people are free to get extra healthcare if they wish beyond the state provided. Many of the largest corporations in the world are based in Europe and have no trouble making a tidy profit even with the higher minimum wage and taxes. In fact, Europe's economy is quickly out performing the US's by leaps and bounds. |
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xp
Male, 30-39, Western US
543 Posts
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Friday, May 23, 2008 8:34:07 AM
Obama is not a Muslim quick_sand. He is a Christian. Which is in the same category of mental illness but at least it's socially acceptable in this country. I don't really care either way but lets at least be honest about it. I don't know what you are referring to Spacemn but yes we are closer to fascism than we have been since the McCarthy era. It's a matter of perspective. Your strawman of saying we shoudn't let Europe decide our next president is just silly. This is simply yardstick to measure political systems and candidates from another perspective. Nobody ever suggested we let Europe decide our next president. I'm pretty sure Obama is a capitalist and believes in a well regulated free market economy. Do you have evidence to the contrary? Most people in this country also believe that the more money you make the more taxes you should pay and that their are some things the government should do, like build roads and keep the peace. The question is; where is the line? |
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SpacemnSpiff
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
101 Posts
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Friday, May 23, 2008 7:40:03 AM
Yeah, xp, let's decide our next president because of what Europe thinks. The U.S. is not even close to being a fascist government. If anything the liberals our moving closer to a form of Marxism. We are being told by the DFLers in congress that because someone is making a large profit in their business they are taking advantage of the consumers. The only group that is taken advantage of people is the government. We buy gas and foods we like, but don't need to survive, all by choice. The government takes our money w/o asking. I know taxes need to be paid to keep the country running. But when the government takes more then they need to spend it on things we don't need. Then tells it's citizens that they are being taken advantage of by people who supply us w/ things we want. That in my opinion is wrong and that is what the DFLer's in the House and Senate our telling us. |
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quick_sand8
Female, 40-49, Southern US
474 Posts
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Friday, May 23, 2008 5:36:09 AM
Obama will not win!!! Democrats will vote for McCain instead of Obama, Racist Rev's little buddy. If it was Colin Powell on the Democratic ticket, that would be a hell of a race, but Obama is tainted. Too many skeletons in his Muslim closet, and his wife has shown her true colors on more then one occasion. He'll never be president. |
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xp
Male, 30-39, Western US
543 Posts
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Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:04:45 PM
Obama no question. McCain is too old and too crazy and too Bushie. Hillary is too slimy and bitchy and too Bushie. Obama is the only reasonable one of the bunch. He may seem a pretty left leaning by comparison but he is actually a moderate- it's just that the US has swung way towards the fascist side of the spectrum in the last couple of decades. In Europe Obama would be considered a moderate. |
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 BroadwayLove
Female, 18-29, Southern US
191 Posts
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Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:56:35 PM
ok...here's the thing. How is Bush so much worse than any other president we've had...I mean, seriously,I know I'm going to get ten million posts of "oh she's brainwashed" but I look foreward to ten years from now when we can look back on these eight years with perspective. I truly believe that a lot of the problems that we currently face, problems that are blamed solely on George Bush, are leftovers from Bill Clinton. |
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 Canine
Male, 13-17, Western US
199 Posts
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Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:36:58 PM
lol @ fancylad beating hillary |
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 lecanadien
Male, 18-29, Canada
102 Posts
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Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:33:51 PM
nice spelling of Barack. Jesus, people, get it right |
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 killerkonnat
Male, 18-29, Europe
72 Posts
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Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:27:14 PM
Wow, obama has 54% and Fancylad got only 11% |
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 britt566
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
2313 Posts
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Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:33:03 PM
I voted 4 fancylad |
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 QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1763 Posts
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Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:17:14 PM
Mccain won't win b/c he will be dead by November! |
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 eagles5
Male, 13-17, Western US
273 Posts
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Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:04:45 PM
dude, mccain is like 72. supposedly he's older than the chocolate chip cookie. LOL. |
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 TheGrag
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
1548 Posts
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Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:15:33 PM
Oh, I bet that Obama is going to win, but I don't support him the slightnest. Clickable Goodnesss: You're Damn Straight It's An Issue! How STUPID are you?! |
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TheGrag
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
1548 Posts
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Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:11:19 PM
I dont wnat any of them to be president, they al have their flaws. Fancylad would be too much on crack to be president anyway ;D |
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 primetimekin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
8111 Posts
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Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:09:43 PM
""There is no way McCain will win.
Obama will take it... by a long shot."
Agreed."Okay... so the democrats eating themselves up is good for Obama? All McCain has to do now is not screw up and he wins in a landslide. |
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