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Driver Refuses to Comply With Border Agents

Hits: 7882 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: eugenius
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Stiletto
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 96 Posts
Monday, May 12, 2008 2:21:48 PM
What a douchebag. She should have detained him after all that bullpoo. She showed incredible patience with someone looking for a fight.

pmarren
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 4284 Posts
Monday, May 12, 2008 8:57:29 AM
I was hoping she'd blast a hole in his face just because he was an irritating "Michael Moore" wannabe. He probably humps chickens and eats his boogers too...

drohalloran
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 8 Posts
Monday, May 12, 2008 8:22:48 AM
This jerkoff should be flogged. What a loser, creating his own episode of x-files. Right now four other losers are convinced JFK, Elvis and Redd Fox are alive and well, acting as puppet masters to torment this dork.

ANCB
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 177 Posts
Monday, May 12, 2008 1:33:41 AM
Good for him. I too like having some freedom.

sgdp
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 608 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:03:32 PM
And as Benjamin Franklin once said:
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."

sgdp
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 608 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:57:48 PM
laMigra77: Any "law" passed that violates our Constitution is null & void. For example, every "Presidential Executive Order" is null & void.

And note this, also: if he had REALLY been doing something wrong, would he have been allowed to drive off? Obviously, the BP thinks they can dupe people into letting them search their private property, etc. This is just like old Nazi Germany.

PAPERS PLEASE!


sgdp
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 608 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:47:46 PM
I can't be bothered to read all the comments. This guy did the right thing. Very inspiring! The zoning of these "checkpoints" has now been moved 100 miles north of the US/Mexican border. The Government wants to move it another 100 miles north. Mind you, in these zones, they claim the Constitution does not apply!

And if you think they should be "protecting our borders"...COME ON. The gov. obviously has ZERO intention of protecting our borders. We're over trying to establish and protect borders in Iraq, while our own country falls apart.

REVOLT! REVOLT! REVOLT!


vkdee
Female, 30-39, Western US
 60 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:06:05 PM
Who was that friggin idiot?! She shouldn't have let him pass with an attitude like that.

BFLH
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:39:13 PM
It depends on where in the interior this checkpoint was. If she required documentation about his citizenship, and had the authority to request them, she would have stated so. Instead, she went on a "fishing trip" and tried to bluff him into revealing info that he didn't need to legally tell her. When cops have the authority to do something, they do it, they don't try and convince or coerce you into it. You notice the agent didn't force the driver into the secondary, she didn't call for backup. She knew she had no grounds for a search or interrogation, and had no power to do anything else. The driver knew it as well.

laMigra77
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 295 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:25:32 PM
Refusing to answer identity questions at a checkpoint is grounds for a search and noncompliance or impeding an inspection is a violation of 18 USC 111.

BFLH: How is this an abuse of authority?!? Immigration checkpoints are legal in this country and are constitutional. The US has the sovereign right to protect its borders and any NEXUS to the border, i.e. a certain distance within the interior.


BFLH
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:00:08 PM
Once again, refusing a search is NOT GROUNDS FOR A SEARCH. I don't know how many ways I can say this.

londoncallme
Female, 18-29, Western US
 112 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:18:27 PM
I don't see why you people are only looking at this in retrospect of the immigration part. The Border Patrol is in charge of not only checking to make sure that people have the right info to prove citizenship (i.e. passport or visa) but also they can see if anything illegal--like drugs--have crossed the border. They are here to protect our borders from people that could hurt us or are breaking our laws. I should know, my parents are both border patrol agents.... I want to show them this video for this female agents stupidity. She shouldn't have let him through. And his refusal to answer her simple question--which was probably just in regards to him showing some form of identification--was enough for her to send him to secondary. (she did mention that in the video) He was just being an ass and didn't understand that the reason he was being sent to secondary inspection is because his behavior is enough to make him suspect in some way. His behavior was deplorable.

Groogle
Male, 30-39, Canada
 2180 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:52:09 PM
We are a police state. Live with it stupid criminals.

Neagle
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1405 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:47:40 PM
**Not legal advice, just words of wisdom**
Laws very state to state. In New Mexico any state law enforcement officer has the right to conduct check points for DUI as well as license and registration checks. These points must be listed in a local news paper 24 hours before the check. A New Mexico state law enforcement officer may not ask the legal status of an individual under Governor Bill Richardson's executive order. The sick douche bag that he is. A federal enforcement officer is powerless to search a non commercial vehicle without consent of the owner without probable cause. They may stop you but, they may not detain you without cause unless you are entering the US at a border point, airport dock or station. These "check points" are with-in the so called internationally sanctioned buffer zones and are usually 40 miles in country. remember when asked the question "Have you had anything to drink today?" your answer should always be no.

BFLH
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:58:25 AM
Arrested for what? He did nothing illegal. What you are proposing is illegal and an abuse of authority.

BFLH
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:41:14 AM
Arrested for what? He did nothing illegal. What you are proposing is illegal and an abuse of authority.

LtFurpie
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1019 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:33:15 AM
What an a-hole that guy is. He demands answers from her yet doesn't answer her questions. That kind of logic seemed great when I was in the 2nd grade. Filibuster my arse. He should have been arrested.

BFLH
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:32:02 AM
Human trafficking and illegal immigration are both destructive to the US, but sacrificing our basic rights to stop them is NOT the way to solve the problem. We are just trading one set of problems for another.
And I can't believe that people on here actually advocate beating this guy because you think he was a "jerk". That's the height of stupidity. I suppose you would think it was fine if a cop hauled you out of your car and beat you for no other reason than the fact that he thought you were being "rude". If that's the kind of country you want to live in, try moving to an actual 3rd-world sh*thole where the cops CAN do that, and see how you like it.

BFLH
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:26:25 AM
Actually, they need reason to suspect the driver is involved in illegal activities. The BP does NOT have carte blanche to disregard the constitution. Read 1357 again. They need probable cause, they are not exempt from the process just because they are Border Patrol. And NO, refusing a search or questions does absolutely NOT give them probable cause for a search. They, like other LEOs, can only execute warrantless searches if they have probable cause to believe there is illegal activity.

laMigra77
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 295 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:24:03 AM
This officer has every right to question this idiot pursuant to section 8 USC 1357, no warrant needed, no probable cause. Although by not answering the basic question that would get him on his way, mere suspicion arises and is enough for her to search him in secondary. Running an interior immigration checkpoint is a violation of 18 USC 758.

Ruining this country?!? How about human traffickers that enslave women as prostitutes, illegal aliens soaking up free healthcare, criminal aliens having sex with 10 year olds? Oh, none of you mind that huh?


Devi3000
Female, 18-29, Western US
 1527 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:03:39 AM
That was not a drating border crossing. Are you people dumb? They have these in Arizona too. drating 150 miles away from the border. This guy may be an non-nice individual, but border patrol has no right to stop him at all. None, unless he is leaving or entering another country via said border. He had no reason to do anything she said unless, he was being pulled over for suspicion by a police officer. These check points are just a small part of what is going to ruin this country.

Lathyris
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 66 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 2:45:25 AM
Jerk. They should have detained him and searched the vehicle. Seems like he was hiding something. People have too many rights in this country and just because they can easily intimidate the authorities for fear of being sued, criminals can get away with so much.

Chicago_Bear
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 1 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:59:56 AM
What an non-nice individual! Some people only want to start trouble. She should have dragged his ass out of the car and beat him with his camera.

Invalok
Male, 18-29, Western US
 729 Posts
Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:05:58 AM
So if your a complete ass hole with a camera you can get through Border Patrol checkpoints?

norwegian
Male, 18-29, Western US
 83 Posts
Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:11:20 PM
what a douchebag

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