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Small Church's Obama Sign Causes Big Controversy

Hits: 7317 | Rating: (2.1) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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TypicalIABer
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 41 Posts
Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:39:23 PM
I'm assuming Baalthazaq's double-post is an accident?

maryinblue
Female, 18-29, Western US
 65 Posts
Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:02:19 PM
I'm not religious, BTW.

maryinblue
Female, 18-29, Western US
 65 Posts
Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:01:25 PM
The truly ironic thing is that Jesus would agree. Yes, they are brothers, as we are all children of God.

Think about it.

Just another example of how the Christian church has completely perverted the message of Christ.


TypicalIABer
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 41 Posts
Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:37:56 AM
Wha...? The poll specifically asked about suicide bombings against civilians. The 26% figure comes from those who believed it was ever justified.

And apparently the book you linked to has no sources listed in the appendix, so it would be very difficult if not impossible to verify or debunk anything inside it.


Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:50:29 AM
And finally:
Your survey still only has 1% saying it was "often justified".

On top of that, remember when I said 7%? Yours says 8%. the only way it's 26% is if you discount all women period, and all men over 30.

Which is the figure most outlets decided to focus on.

So is it a lie? Not exactly.
Did you turn it in to one? Yes.


Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:30:19 AM
Sorry had to do some work and had to leave, but I wanted to mention:

It's the "bombing" part of suicide bombing that's bad. The suicide is fairly neutral. It's the killing other people.

What do you think of the following question: "Do you think bombing somewhere can ever be justified, at least in some circumstances?"

How many Americans do you think would say yes?
I'm betting more than 26%.

If the census asked that, I don't see why not.

Against civilians: No.
It didn't ask that.
It just asked if it could hypothetically be justified, and quite frankly, in a war, without other options, against military targets, when you are on the defensive, I don't see why not.

It's justifiable under the same circumstances any kind of bombing is justifiable.

Oh, and I found the question they asked: The 25% answered it was acceptable "at least in some circumstances".

Bite me.


britt566
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2315 Posts
Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:27:50 AM
???POTS TI LLIW NEHW !dlrow niffe eht ni etah eht fo lla etah I .gmo

Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:03:24 PM
"Obviously, the 2007 poll of American Muslims with 26% justifying suicide bombings is a blatant Neo-con/Southern/Republican/Christian lie!"

I didn't say it was a lie. I'm just saying my sample source is likely to be 500 times bigger than yours, not limited to the USA, has sample questions I've seen (and are straightforward), and for fun, compares those figures with non-Muslims.

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Speaks-Islam-B...

For example the US government told the Saudis they weren't allowed to say 9/11 had a "cause". How dare they "justify" the suicide bombings.

If they're using that measure to see if Muslims "justify" suicide bombings, I'm surprised it's not in the 90s, of course suicide bombings have a cause. Nothing happens for no reason.

It's only justification if you think it's a good reason.


Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:46:54 PM
Trinity: No no, no offence, just taking your point further.

For the two people who brought up Hussein:
1) My middle name is effectively Moses.

2) Naming conventions in certain parts of Africa are based on your ancestors. So if your great grandfather named his kid Hussein, that name would stick with your great-grandkid. Even if Hussein was an Atheist, and his son Barack, and His son Barack Junior.


Kisato
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 754 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:58:23 PM
I like Obama... I hope he wins.

Stentorian
Male, 13-17, Western US
 1044 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:30:38 PM
OH NO a president that doesn't believe in el Jeezy Creezy!? That'd be terrible. Imagine, a man/woman that has beliefs of their own. That's simply wrong. Them bastard non-Christians are ruining this nation.

Wey_Pooh
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1023 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:23:08 PM
OBAMA IS A MUSLIM. OBAMA IS A TERRORIST. OBAMA IS GAY. OBAMA IS HERE TO DESTROY THE WORLD. OBAMA IS BLACK. OBAMA IS FROM AFRICA. OBAMA HATES JESUS. OBAMA EATS BABIES. OBAMA HAS INTERCOURSE WITH BABIES. OBAMA IS FROM AFGHANISTAN. OBAMA WAS ONE OF THE HIJACKERS ON 9/11. OBAMA IS IN FAVOR OF THE WAR. OBAMA HIRED A PROSTITUTE.

firefliet
Female, 18-29, Western US
 1239 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:55:06 PM
"It's simply to cause people to realize and to see what possibly could happen if we were to get someone in there that does not believe in Jesus Christ," he said.

Seriously, WTF. (Crazy Christians, gotta love 'em, though...) It has ALREADY BEEN DEBUNKED THAT OBAMA IS F'ING MUSLIM. That was a stupid rumor and needs to be stopped. So what the HELL does religion have to do with it?

Hm... South Carolina. I believe that is in the... SOUTH. Racist b'tard? Probably, but I'm not making any definite accusations. -wink-

(Sorry if I sound overly bitchy, it's just that the damned internet rumors are accepted as truth automatically. F'ing sucks).


trinity_enig
Female, 18-29, Europe
 85 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:42:12 PM
By the way sandrockk, I don't think the name your parents gave you denotes your religon, it might possibly let you know something about the area you parents came from possibly. Just think about all the people who are christian and american yet have an arabic name that translates to something else. Not to mention the fact that even if you were brought up with a certain religon you are able to choose a different religon yourself

trinity_enig
Female, 18-29, Europe
 85 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:38:23 PM
Baalthazaq- I didn't mean to offend, I was trying to suggest a tiny number, as I was trying to suggest a tiny number of christians are as narrow minded as this man seems to be.

I was trying stick up for the majority of muslims and christians who are not represented by this story.

Didn't mean to offend you if I did


Wey_Pooh
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1023 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:38:22 PM
OBAMA IS A MUSLIM. OBAMA IS A TERRORIST. OBAMA IS GAY. OBAMA IS HERE TO DESTROY THE WORLD. OBAMA IS BLACK. OBAMA IS FROM AFRICA. OBAMA HATES JESUS. OBAMA EATS BABIES. OBAMA HAS INTERCOURSE WITH BABIES. OBAMA IS FROM AFGHANISTAN. OBAMA WAS ONE OF THE HIJACKERS ON 9/11. OBAMA IS IN FAVOR OF THE WAR. OBAMA HIRED A PROSTITUTE.

sandrock42
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 37 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:23:44 PM
hmm so whats his middle name cough cough HUSSEIN and so he says he is a christian yeah right

evilducky00
Male, 18-29, Western US
 422 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:41:27 PM
HA HA I liked how they spelled hmm humm

Wey_Pooh
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1023 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:37:32 PM
OBAMA IS A MUSLIM. OBAMA IS A TERRORIST. OBAMA IS GAY. OBAMA IS HERE TO DESTROY THE WORLD. OBAMA IS BLACK. OBAMA IS FROM AFRICA. OBAMA HATES JESUS. OBAMA EATS BABIES. OBAMA HAS INTERCOURSE WITH BABIES. OBAMA IS FROM AFGHANISTAN. OBAMA WAS ONE OF THE HIJACKERS ON 9/11. OBAMA IS IN FAVOR OF THE WAR. OBAMA HIRED A PROSTITUTE.

NicoNico
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 437 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:36:21 PM
It has an update. Apparently, the sign was removed. I was about to rally people on this board to look up the email for "Jonesville Church of God".

I'd hate to hear what he says to the congregation.


_TiKi_
Male, 18-29, Canada
 109 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:57:48 PM
"It was never intended to hurt feelings or to offend anybody"

no your right, if you compared me to a terrorist who was responsible for the deaths of countless people, I'd be perfectly fine, don't worry


catbarf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1314 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:45:01 PM
Eh, who let the monkey onto the keyboard?

Wey_Pooh
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1023 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:37:10 PM
OBAMA IS A MUSLIM. OBAMA IS A TERRORIST. OBAMA IS GAY. OBAMA IS HERE TO DESTROY THE WORLD. OBAMA IS BLACK. OBAMA IS FROM AFRICA. OBAMA HATES JESUS. OBAMA EATS BABIES. OBAMA HAS INTERCOURSE WITH BABIES. OBAMA IS FROM AFGHANISTAN. OBAMA WAS ONE OF THE HIJACKERS ON 9/11. OBAMA IS IN FAVOR OF THE WAR. OBAMA HIRED A PROSTITUTE.

Tonyjet
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3430 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:33:01 PM
love this political poo

Wey_Pooh
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1023 Posts
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:17:56 PM
OBAMA IS A MUSLIM. OBAMA IS A TERRORIST. OBAMA IS GAY. OBAMA IS HERE TO DESTROY THE WORLD. OBAMA IS BLACK. OBAMA IS FROM AFRICA. OBAMA HATES JESUS. OBAMA EATS BABIES. OBAMA HAS INTERCOURSE WITH BABIES. OBAMA IS FROM AFGHANISTAN. OBAMA WAS ONE OF THE HIJACKERS ON 9/11. OBAMA IS IN FAVOR OF THE WAR. OBAMA HIRED A PROSTITUTE.

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