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American Flag Art Controversy

Hits: 11044 | Rating: (2.3) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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Kalimdon
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 113 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:42:43 AM
Silly old people, thinking that anyone cares what they think.

maxmcd
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 76 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:18:45 AM
The real problem with this country is it's divisiveness. If you don't like the way something is done, do something constructive to change it, why do they feel the need to hurt/incense others when "attempting to make a change" I hate the way we've be become so polarized in the US, but I love my country. I respect the artist's right to express their opinion, but they shouldn't be able to do it at a public university; I'm sure if it was an homage to the ten commandments it never would have flew.

TheNineXXX
Male, 18-29, Europe
 401 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:16:10 AM
http://atheism.about.com/od/flagburningd...

Helium101
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 54 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:12:57 AM
hmm... stupid people doing stupid things.. America for you =)

explody
Female, 13-17, Southern US
 104 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:09:46 AM
I see no art here, I just see some flags on the ground. Who organized this? Why? There needs to be more information on that. I'm in the Hot Topic crowd, and all of my friends are too. We all think this is retarded. Why would you step on a flag? What's the point other than to just piss people off? I feel bad for the veteran, he fought for these people, and they should respect him, not yell at him. If I was there, I'd carefully step around the flags and be on my way. It all seems so pointless... And it may be just cloth for some of you, and it might mean the world to someone else. Can't we all just respect each other's opinions?

krabkat
Female, 18-29, Western US
 939 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:04:06 AM
Has anyone here ever read the US FLAG CODE?? Did the artist? Just wondering. I'm all for freedom of expression, etc. and I understand the point in this type of art...it is basically a means to cause controversy. I just hope the artist and those who walked all over the flag understand that showing respect for the flag doesn't mean a person cares about a 'piece of cloth' - it means they understand what the flag stands for and what sacrifices were made in order for that flag to be in existence. They can show disrespect if they choose to...just as the veteran can show his displeasure - both, however, must conform to the US Flag Code...bet the artist has never read it!! It says the flag should never be placed on the ground or walked on. It's a sign of disrespect. So I guess that's what this whole art project was about - disrespect.

CheesyQueso
Female, 18-29, Western US
 10873 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:57:37 AM
whats the big deal its just a flag with ugly colors
its a piece of cloth its nothing
burn it, step on it, put it on the floor it shouldnt bother people its just cloth

stevenash
Male, 18-29, Europe
 124 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:46:35 AM
these people are like those terrorists...easily offended....I thought U.S allow freedom of speech...it sound really hypocritical.

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:44:39 AM
k,just wanting people to stop generalizing due to some idiots doing stuff that the main body of whatever scene it is would beat them for,believe in america you call the hot topic people mallgoths anyways,theyre a sorta sad imitation and crossover of many groups usually who go around giving the respective groups bad reputations

VONLINE
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 573 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:40:21 AM
We mean no disrespect VikingGuy (at least not me). When you see people dressed like that, it's just easy to pass them off with the goth name.

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:27:30 AM
peeps,stop for a sec,a true goth would see it as respectless as i did,as i said before,those are just idiots,they come in all shapes and sizes and forms and can look like any element of society,the artist probably chose that shot just to spark even more bullpoo than he/she already has and i find it tasteless.It wouldnt matter if those people wore a white shirt and blue jeans or a fking chicken suit,theyre not goths but just respectless punks who think theyre making some sort of statement for a scene they WISH they belonged to but know drat all about except how to dress in a poor imitation of.

RelaxEnjoy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 204 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:23:53 AM
i never understood the whole flaglove thing americans have going
also a crapload of patriotism in these posts.. i've always found patriotism a weird thing to value

that said, chances are the people that did this are just arses
i would probably walk around the flag


dsteenbock
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 60 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:14:43 AM
I didn't see any art at all. I saw flags on the ground and what looked like ripped up pieces of paper. Flags and trash.... doesn't look like art to me.

FxyRoxy777
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 659 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:12:56 AM
Seriously, no one knows what this man went through during the war to protect all that the flag stands for. God knows how many of his friends died around him while staying true to that flag. At the end of their battles and deaths of those around them, their victory was to be able to keep that flag standing at the end of the day. I'm not the most political person out there, but I can respect those who are. What was the point of them using American flags? To piss people off of course. Some war heroes are turning in their graves I swear...
Those little goth looking kids stepping on the flag trying to "make a statement" are just looking for attention and to piss the guy off. I want to see what they've done in their lives to be proud of. The veteran should go step on Marilyn Manson or something and see how they like it :-p

ClearSky87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 229 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:02:32 AM
baalthazag is right...he/she was most likely an attention whore...

but then again...so is he


VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:01:32 AM
oh,before you go saying only goths stood on it,read my post page before and know i´m a goth,those where just respectless idiots and it wouldnt be changed if they wore white and rosey pink either.

Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:00:04 AM
So according to most people so far, trolling *is* an artform.... who knew.

Beacons of free speech?
Heroes of democracy?
The light that guideth the way?

Or just random arseholes?
Personally, I'm going for the latter. You don't need to be an American to recognise an attention whore.


ClearSky87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 229 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:59:39 AM
bankvole...thank you

i probly would have walked around any flag, just because i would assume somebody was using it

also the flag is just a symbol...and people constantly draw the conclusion that if u do anything to it...you hate america and our troops

though yea...it was probly some dumbass psychology major just trying to be 'edgy' just to get attention...

and those goth kids couldn't care less about what they did...they just wanted attention because goths suck sooo much ass

but i think its wrong for something to be taboo just because a veteran tells us so...does that work in every situation or just one involving some Sh*t-tasticly bad attempt at being original?


VONLINE
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 573 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:57:12 AM
I say let them do it. You have to. But know the best way to let the "artist" know how you feel is to do exactly what most of the people in the video were doing. Walk around them, not on them. Like someone said before, the only people standing on them are the Hot Topic regulars. A part of this video actually made me feel good, seeing the vast majority people showing respect for our symbol. And that's what it is, a symbol. Not just a piece of cloth with ink on it. We all have things in our lives that are representative of an abtract idea that we wouldn't want tarnished. I'd say most people have a photo album or collection. How would you like it if someone destroyed that? Would it bother you? After all, they're just pieces of paper with ink on them, right?

romboy
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 222 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:53:27 AM
Oh about the APOCOLYPSE last I heard was Dec of 2012

marysevier
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 79 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:52:58 AM
I thought that veterans went to war to protect freedoms like self expression. The artist isn't burning a flag or putting an american flag on the ground. he put his art on the ground.

romboy
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 222 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:52:53 AM
Feel bad for the veteran. Dumb Mainers what will they do next?

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:46:53 AM
though i´m not loyal to any country i can say if i would see someone standing on the flag of the culture and society i belong to i would simply shoot them on spot because its simply a disgusting ammount of disrespect,regardless of which flag it is and which society and culture it belongs to,i wouldnt even have done that with nazi flags.And the disrespect to the veteran is also just outrageous,i would have stood by him in full support,he fought for what he believes in and what he thinks is right,anyone disrespecting him for that isnt a artist but simply a disgrace to mankind and freedom,i would have most likely picked up each and every flag,though i´m not loyal to it,out of respect and honor for those who are.This is not art,its a insult to a society and people.

bankvole
Male, 30-39, Europe
 988 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:36:13 AM
If only they got so upset about carpet bombing children with cluster bombs

Rman1201
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 247 Posts
Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:35:10 AM
I hate how anything involving "the flag" or "the nation" is treated as sacred ground. Stop putting so much F-ing meaning behind it. Its a flag. Nothing more. Its not the lives of dead veterans, it doesnt mean wasted deaths in wars, all that shows is that veterens were successful in their fight to keep the freedom of speech and the freedom to do what you want so long as it doesnt physically infringe on someone else.

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