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'Speak English' Signs OK at Philly Restaurant

Hits: 10870 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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BikerTeen
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 4280 Posts
Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:43:24 AM
@ scabies "That's pretty ignorant, I hope you don't plan to travel abroad any time in your lifetime, unless of course you speak the native language of all of your destinations." 1: no i don't plan to travel 2:if i did i would learn the basic language BEFORE i went 3:and if i moved any were i would fully learn the language word for word and 4: it would never be a problem because i would Rather be in the USA best place on the planet and in Texas best place in the USA

dannirhu
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 4 Posts
Sunday, March 23, 2008 5:56:42 PM
I absolutley, 100% agree with this man. If you're going to come into our country, which we allow hundreds to do everyday, then you need to at least learn the language to show your gratitude.

paperplate
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 41 Posts
Saturday, March 22, 2008 9:15:36 PM
I have eaten there. Its not bad, and who cares about a sign?

yankee15
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 266 Posts
Saturday, March 22, 2008 10:04:02 AM
You're in America now...Speak Spanish!

NoGoodIdeas
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 126 Posts
Saturday, March 22, 2008 9:45:19 AM
Isn't it the store's right? People don't have a right to eat anywhere they want, no exceptions. If they want to eat at my resturaunt, they have to play by my rules. If they don't like it, they can find somewhere else to eat.

Also, about the Cherokee thing. Since Cherokee is no longer the common tongue (It wasn't in the first place (It was split among ALL the languages around,) but that's beside the point.) it's not expected. The comic is ireelevant because even though [example] was the original language, it's not the primary anymore. English is. And I don't know about the owner, or others making my arguement, but if I go to Italy, I plan on learning basic Italian before I go there. The same applies elsewhere. I don't plan on travelling the world, but if I did, I wouldn't go with only English in my toolbelt.


Darkmartyr
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 132 Posts
Saturday, March 22, 2008 7:44:59 AM
Umm why put a sign up in English that says to speak English. Shouldn't it be in other languages.

I can understand putting up the sign. I have to deal with clients that speak Spanish often on the phone and they act like I'm a prick because I don't speak Spanish well and ask if they can speak English.


Nidonemo
Male, 18-29, Western US
 9216 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 10:33:14 PM
Ehhhh...there's bigger things *net neutrality* to worry about.

ladynerd
Female, 18-29, Australia
 249 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 10:06:41 PM
Speak the language of the country or don't live there pretty simple concept

theBSR
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4185 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 8:36:18 PM
Genos kicks ass......order in English Wetback, or go to Taco Bell, comprende?

Tonyjet
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3430 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 7:57:15 PM
all those comments are fine.. but this country claims freedom of speech

maybe they ougtha chaned the constitution since i guess is not wrong


ImNoGod
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1156 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 7:46:20 PM
The store owner should have the right to put up a "Speak English" sign on his property if he pleases as such action is protected by the FIRST AMENDMENT. I'm glad to see a logical court ruling.

danigirl1
Female, 18-29, Europe
 1 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 7:38:05 PM
If this sign was posted in a British shop the owner, the employees and the guy who made the ink for the sign would go to jail. LOL

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11513 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 5:24:58 PM
Okasen - I agree. I've been to France for a holiday. I learnt some basic French, particularly how to apologise in French for not understanding it better. Their country, their language. It was common for us to then switch to English as their English was better than my French, but the crucial point is that I had the courtesy to use their language in their country, even though I was only visiting, and it was their choice to use my language. To *settle* in a country and not even use their language is beyond rude, except for older people who retire to another country.

If I emigrated to France, I'd become French. Speaking French would be a part of that. I wouldn't expect France to become England to suit me. Likewise if I emigrated to the USA, or Chile, or anywhere.

To head off any morons blathering about racism (i) I think race is an invalid concept. (ii) I'm the first generation of my family born in England.


Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11513 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 5:05:49 PM
I think that the people making comments about Cherokee are overlooking a key point:

English replaced Cherokee (and all the other languages) because foreign invaders who spoke English conquered the land. It's one of the differences between immigration and conquest - immigrants learn the language of the country they move to, conquerors impose their own language on the country they conquer. Even conquerors don't always manage that, e.g. the Norman conquest of England did not succeed in imposing Norman French on England (although it did change English to some extent).

More power to this person for defending their country. If I ever go to that city, I'll make a point of eating there because of the sign.

Having the sign in English makes perfect sense - it targets people who can speak English and choose not to. It won't affect foreign tourists who can't speak English, as they won't be able to read the sign anyway.


Groogle
Male, 30-39, Canada
 2180 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 4:59:46 PM
The shop owner is dumb. Just hire C3PO to work in your restaurant. It's a lot easier then to write a sign that people concerned wont even be able to read.

Problem solved.


Okasen
Female, 13-17, Southern US
 714 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 4:13:26 PM
and i'm sure they don't mind people who give an effort, like maybe stumbling with words, i respect that they're trying, but if they just come in and go full on foreign without consideration that i am not fluent in spanish/french/german/japanese (though i know a few words and phrases int eh latter two)

And really how hard is it to be able to understand. Do you want two cheesesteaks? hold up two fingers and try to pronounce cheesesteak... not hard.


Okasen
Female, 13-17, Southern US
 714 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 4:06:28 PM
In germany i knew how to order food... and they even speak english there so i didn;t have too!

"svi schnitzel bitta, ine coke unt ine sprite, dunka shen"

i think thats the right phrase for two schnitzel, a coke and a sprite, thankyou.

It's not hard. And that's three or four years after my trip... maybe five. idk.



mikallang
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 615 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 4:05:09 PM
@Baalthazaq

lol nice.


Okasen
Female, 13-17, Southern US
 714 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 4:01:41 PM
He should get an award. This is america. WE SPEAK ENGLISH! If you're too much of a lazy non-nice individual to learn the native tongue, then you can't order.

I mean really, I learned german when I went there for vacation for two weeks! you're planning to /live/ here and you won't learn the native language?

And how is it discriminating against who can eat there? it didn't say not immigrants! it said speak english,the native language! an immigrant can do that!


Eichenkatze
Male, 18-29, Western US
 781 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 3:57:56 PM
Personally, I hate it when people get all upset about this stuff "That's not right. you're descriminating!" No. Did I say I hate mexicans? Did I say I hate asians? Ethiopians, Turks, Germans, or the French? No. But I live in America. The national language is ENGLISH. If you want to live here then learn the language. I don't go to your country expecting you to automatically know English. I at least make the effort. So why don't you?

I'm Okay with people wanting to move to the United States. More power to you. All I ask is that you make the effort to learn the language and culture of the country you're moving to. Learn even basic English and I'll welcome you into my country. Hell, I'll even take you out for an American Dinner and an American Beer. On me. Just. Learn. English.


Monsdurr
Male, 13-17, Western US
 751 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 3:40:28 PM
Mmm, anyone who comes to this country and doesn't learn English are really losing a lot. It's not the official language, but it's used by the overwhelming majority of people here.


And, the owner is just losing customers, not only from recent immigrants, but from any tourists too. What a dolt.


klkl
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 2175 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 2:37:01 PM
lol, i remember when they were gettin in trouble for this way back when

shizzamX
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 2835 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 2:18:59 PM
if they can't speak english, they can't read the sign.

SKR34
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 34 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 1:37:18 PM
It's about time someone stood up.
Political correctness FTL.

Mikeado
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2179 Posts
Friday, March 21, 2008 1:36:56 PM
So being ignorant pays off...

...only in America.


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