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 xxminglexx
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 761 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:35:37 PM
rollingwit24.... should be banned.
Seriously, we're talking about people who are actually dead here and you're using it to bash on muslims, which has absolutely nothing to do with this. Shut up. |
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 PandaLoMein
Male, 18-29, Asia
189 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:32:04 PM
I just posted, but I'll say it first.You are an a.ss, rolling"wit". It's people like you that probably weren't allowed into college in the first place. |
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PandaLoMein
Male, 18-29, Asia
189 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:29:07 PM
My sister is going to university now, I would be devastated if something like this happened in the school she is in.Piroteknix. . . 1) Please. Stop. It's at times like this where you need to be a little sensitive to what's going on. This post is about NIU. 2) Unfortunately for mankind, you kind of have a point. Joseph Stalin said it, "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic." Is that right? No. Is it a part of human nature? Yes. 3) See part #1. |
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 rollingwit24
Male, 18-29, Western US
14 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:24:35 PM
This is exactly why we shouldn't let Muslims into college. And nakoninja, suck it up you #ussy. |
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xxminglexx
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
761 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:18:30 PM
Just try calling their family members if you can, they usually get first contact. |
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 nakoninja
Male, 18-29, Southern US
353 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:09:28 PM
o god... o god... im totally freaking out over this. i have a few friends that go there. i can get in contact to any of thm... o god i hope they ar ok......... |
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xxminglexx
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
761 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:02:32 PM
I live in Dekalb. I've christened it the Devil Town after a Bright Eyes song. First, a monster truck hits 12 people. Then, a huge flood comes through. Now this. I was drating scared as poo for my friend who wasn't answering his cell phone, and we didn't know he was okay until he showed up at our church. |
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 Dakkar
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1263 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:54:53 PM
Anyone attacking American gun policy please realize that if someone is willing to shoot 22 strangers, they will be more than willing to get a hold of a gun no matter what. You can outlaw guns, they will still get them. Its that simple.There are so many variables in these situations. Police aren't fast enough, but is allowing concealed carry on campuses the correct thing to do? America needs to start having a lot of open forums to try and resolve this issue. Because currently, this isn't working. I go to Penn State, University Park. A branch campus, PSU Harrisburg, recently had a student convicted because on his myspace he was threatening to make VA Tech look like child's play on a PSU campus. This is everywhere and its a real problem. |
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 headwound
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
913 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:51:57 PM
well I see 2008 is shaping up to be promising... |
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 Piroteknix
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
362 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:47:05 PM
Ok, I can see how you were confused by my comment. I meant "no one cares (on the contrary, they SUPPORT it) about the war on terror and its casualties" |
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Piroteknix
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
362 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:38:34 PM
Standards: When did I EVER, EVER, and again, EVER say that we should support the war on terror. I'm against war of any kind, let alone the war on terror. And the "Virginia Tech and a third" comment was to show you how many CIVILIAN lives are lost every day in Iraq. Apparently my point didn't get through, because you're still offended at any mention of one incident of 33 Americans killed, but if I said "the Iraqi civilians killed on February 13th, 2008," you wouldn't care, would you? You have just furthered my point. |
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Piroteknix
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
362 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:33:54 PM
I got my facts from iraqbodycount.com Not all the deaths in the middle east are reported so 80000 is the low end of the spectrum. IBC counts "the violent civilian deaths that have resulted from the 2003 military intervention in Iraq. [...] includes deaths caused by US-led coalition forces and paramilitary or criminal attacks by others." Even with an unbelievably high margin of error of 25%, it's still 33 people a day. It doesn't matter what caused the deaths either. A "civilian attacking a university" and a suicide bomber attacking women and children in the streets aren't different. They're both humans taking human lives. It doesn't matter who kills. Are you saying that the lives of six American students are more valuable than the lives of 33-45 Iraqi civilians? What's the difference between a terrorist and a civilian anyway? At what point does a civilian stop being a civilian and becomes a terrorist? With the possession of a gun? A bomb? Or when the motives of kil |
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PandaLoMein
Male, 18-29, Asia
189 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:29:51 PM
I graduated with a sociology degree. At that time, I heard a stupid academic joke, "Psychology majors can't get along with themselves, Sociology majors can't get along with anybody." I was just thinking about that when I was reading these posts and saw the news.My major was all about trying to find the social causes of stuff like this, and it's still a mystery. We obviously need to work as a society to figure these things out. WHAT CAUSES SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN!? It's all so senseless. Absolute terrible. My condolences to everyone involved. I can't imagine what being involved in a tragedy like this is like. |
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 Standards
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
936 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:23:50 PM
"A virginia tech and a third"
....I'd call that a temperary suspension on I-A-B.. That's deep. I'm sorry, that just crosses the line.
Not a good time for 150th post, I must say.. |
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Standards
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
936 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:20:39 PM
That's so upsetting Pikaro... Stay strong, man. I really don't want to say that the gunman was wrong in doing it, though my thoughts are in that area. Perspective, maybe, but I really don't want to be the judging person. 22 people shot.... wow... Much regards from everyone here.As for Piroteknix, your thesis is that we should support the war on terror "but no one cares, or even SUPPORT the war on terror" yet why should we support something that has claimed lives? Also going along with Pikaro, there's a major difference in those standpoints. If you want a comment space focusing on the middle east, post something about that. But for this, right now, it's all about NIU. |
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 quick_sand8
Female, 40-49, Southern US
474 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:20:27 PM
Very sad and disturbing. Can't begin to imagine what the family members are going through. Very sad.
Thoughts and prayers from Tennessee to you all.... |
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 JazzyPiano
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
1036 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:07:49 PM
Just saw this in the news a little while ago. My sympathy goes out to all. There are some terrible, sick-minded people in this world. |
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 gorgokid333
Male, 13-17, Western US
228 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:01:49 PM
I hate living in illinois SOOO much. |
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Pikaro
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
64 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:58:38 PM
Piroteknix: You obviously don't understand the difference at all. The Middle Eastern conflict you compare to this is military action against terrorism, and many of those casualties you mention are also deaths caused by terrorism.That's VERY different from a civilian (not a terrorist) attacking a university. There is a lot of death in the Middle East, but the premise behind it is completely different. Please get your facts straight before you make rude comments. |
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Piroteknix
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
362 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:50:09 PM
You're all victims of the times. Six people dead in America is a huge deal while six civilians are killed in the middle east easy every day, not to mention the starving and destitute in Africa and underdeveloped countries and all around the world. The news coverage on school shootings ticks me off because everyone in America sheds a tear for five well-off American student dead (I guess I'm making the assumption that they're not poor based on the fact that they were in college, and people who can afford college are at least above the poverty line, even with loans), but no one cares, or even SUPPORT the war on terror, which has already taken its toll of ~80,000 civilian lives. Since March 2003 (4 years, 11 months), that's 16270 deaths a year, or ~45 deaths a day. We could have a Virginia Tech and a third happen every day and we still wouldn't have that many deaths every day. Of course the way Iraqi civilians die are just as horrible, if not more, than school shootings. |
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 firetiger16
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
343 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:42:12 PM
Wow that really sucks... |
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Pikaro
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
64 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:22:07 PM
In response to Standards question on the situation here, the entire university has been on lockdown, and many services are closed until at least Monday. We have confirmed that the shooter was a graduate student in sociology here back in spring '07. 22 people were shot, and five (plus the gunman) are dead (four female, one male, and the male shooter).We are all praying for the families here and thank those who are sending their hopes and prayers our way. |
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 Charizzo
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
1701 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:16:16 PM
nerd, whats goin on kid. long time no talk |
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 hehehenerd
Male, 13-17, Southern US
13943 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:14:35 PM
its times like these that im glad my school is nice |
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 ihateniu
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
39 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:06:31 PM
Now I have to change my screen name.But seriously. I graduated from NIU in 2006. And I still know people there (from what I know they are all ok). I had many classes in that building. And I hate that now when I tell anyone I went to NIU they will think of this. |
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