 mistressaya
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 28 Posts
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Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:03:22 AM
Since when has the HSUS actually cared about stuff like this? I thought they'd just take Peta's approach of setting all the dogs from the puppy mills and pet stores free to fend for themselves.Last I heard, they don't even give any of the money donated to them to any actually humane societies either. |
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 truthordare
Female, 13-17, Southern US
1 Posts
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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:26:57 AM
I agree with glocktypus. If there are puppies that are being harme, maybe even tortured, are we simply supposed to turn out backs? Ignore it all? I agree that something must be done about these mills, but are we really supposed to let those who suffer suffer even more? |
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 glocktypus
Female, 18-29, Western US
435 Posts
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Saturday, December 15, 2007 7:56:08 PM
so what do we do with all those puppies if we are not allowed to buy them, let them die...and why do vegans eat meat flavored items if they don't think we are made to eat meat? |
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Snarkypants
Female, 18-29, Canada
6 Posts
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Saturday, December 15, 2007 6:49:56 PM
twizzler, the bad part isn't that you're adopting them. It's that you're giving money to the people who are responsible for their bad "puppyhood". As long as they can make money off of their mills, they will keep running these mills and more pups will suffer as a result. Shelter puppies need homes just as much, and you'll be giving money to people who want to help the animals rather than hurt them. |
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 icelover
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
213 Posts
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Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:46:22 PM
4 out of my five pets are humane dogs and cats.. and theyre sooo sweet..
my other dogg is kinda evil and we actually bought her!so my whole thought on this is that if u rescue a pet.. they will love u more cuz they no u saved the life!!!! RESUE AN ANIMAL!!!!!!!!!!!
<3 |
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 GothicQueen
Male, 13-17, Africa
4412 Posts
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Saturday, December 15, 2007 3:26:28 PM
^lol it's okay we understand |
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 Rufifi
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
498 Posts
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Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:41:26 PM
taht didn't came up right... |
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Rufifi
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
498 Posts
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Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:41:05 PM
<img src="http://www.animalexperimentspictures.com/images/thumbnails/B64_420x420.jpg" alt=" A Vivisection Picture - a healthy defenceless dog is turned into bloody pieces. - Image courtesy of AnimalExperimentsPictures.com"> |
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 beckpratt
Female, 18-29, Southern US
206 Posts
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Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:47:57 PM
Okay... Two rants for me on this.. First, animal testing is not just putting things on animals to see chemical burns. They INJECT stuff right into the animals and see what kind of reaction happens. Torture, in my opinion. Also, I work in a pet store and we buy our pets from people in the community, not puppy mills. If we find out that we have bought from a puppy mill, we stop business with them. This results in us selling a lot of mixed breed dogs, and often times we have no puppies at all since we depend on people in the community to contact us for puppies. We take the dogs and other animals that would otherwise go to shelters. |
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 niabaUK
Male, 18-29, Europe
8 Posts
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Saturday, December 15, 2007 6:17:10 AM
Sorry to be nit-picky WhatInThe42o but when you 'corrected' my grammar I was right to begin with. They're is short for they are. "they are not humans". 'their' is possessive. |
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 twizzler01
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
628 Posts
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Saturday, December 15, 2007 6:11:00 AM
Soo Adopting puppies who had a bad "Childhood" is bad?So then savingthem is bad too.
And taking them into a home with a family is just flat out wrong after they were raised in bad conditions.
No
You take them in and you give them a good rest of their lives because the early part of their lives sucked. |
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 Woot45
Female, 13-17, Western US
2284 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 6:12:07 PM
Now that I actually see evidence, I revise some things I said. My first impression was crackpot diehard vegans who think beef is the antichrist.
There can most certainly be some improvement in they way they get puppies.@Jaundicecake: I'll assume you're a vegan from what you said. Ever eaten wheat? You contributed to killing tens of thousands of animals that live in wheat feilds. I sentence you to be submerged in pesticides and go through a mechanical reaper. It's just.
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 fluffyhoob
Female, 18-29, Europe
194 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 6:10:31 PM
its people who think 'awww but i can give it a home so it wont stay in a pet shop' that are the problem. ive done it myself (not with dogs though, the UK doesnt really sell them in shops over here)if you are PAYING for a dog or kitten or ANY animal from a pet store...you are supporting these kinds of breeding practises. in the UK we have quite strict animal laws, but the likes of big chain pet stores do buy their livestock from places like rodent farms and such, which ive seen pics of recently and im disgusted by. so before you 'rescue' an animal from a pet shop, think about the 100s that will replace the one you buy...supply and demand my friends! |
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 Nidonemo
Male, 18-29, Western US
9216 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 5:07:06 PM
Sadness... |
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 gnctrkcll
Female, 18-29, Europe
79 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 5:05:01 PM
JaundiceCake, I absolutely agree with you. I can't believe the things people can get away with.. |
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 JaundiceCake
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
680 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 4:50:39 PM
*cough*I also think there should be harsher treatment against those who abuse animals. Starve an animal, and the state will starve you. Fight an animal to death, have someone fight YOU to death. It's just. |
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JaundiceCake
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
680 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 4:47:48 PM
I don't know, Woot. Dead babies > chemical burn ANY DAY.Our pet stores actually get their puppies from the humane societies in the local area. *shrug* |
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 ChestyLaRoo
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
595 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 4:33:18 PM
I agree with WhatInThe42o... |
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gnctrkcll
Female, 18-29, Europe
79 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 4:21:45 PM
for the ignorant people who say "there are no pics to back "horrific tests on animals" and "fur isn't nasty"
take a look why dont you:
www.animalexperimentspictures.com/photo_section.php?pageNum_images=1&sid=1&totalRows_images=21www.strasbourgcurieux.com/fourrure |
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 WhatInThe42o
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
385 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 4:07:22 PM
Oh, and on another note, the word 'humane.' People love to quibble about this word. "It shouldn't be HUMANe, they're (usually spelled their) not HUMANs!" That's just silly. If the word was supposed to mean 'treat things like humans,' it would have died out about 2 and a half minutes after its first use, following an uncomfortable silence and some throat clearing. No, rather it means to treat something as if *you were a human.* It means we rise above base, animal instincts, and treat that animal, be it human or otherwise, with respect, honor, and decency. Not necessarily because it deserves those things, but because *you are capable of it.* Only humans are capable of exhibiting humane behavior. It is not a method of treatment, it is a quality of the one doing the treating.That's my take on it. I guess you can start flaming now. |
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WhatInThe42o
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
385 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 3:56:57 PM
I've preached a long time about the importance of adopting dogs from shelters. It's nice to see some sort of movement, no matter how small or eventually fruitless. If one person who sees that interview never buys a dog, rather adopts one, I'm happy. If its more than one, I'm even happier. |
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 RecycleElf
Male, 18-29, Europe
3632 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 2:54:11 PM
hmm.... i dont buy my dogs, my mother is a vatrenarian, and we sometimes keep animals that actuale where suppose to be put to sleep, i got 4 deguses (rodents) last month...and im happy like this, buying animals in a pat store is just not right :S |
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 someone?
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
1417 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 2:09:20 PM
peta wrote this imo. |
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 eleutherarch
Female, 13-17, Europe
1005 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 2:02:31 PM
Yes, this is sad and all...but why is this here?
It doesn't cure my boredom at all, it just makes me go,"Oh, poor doggies...but my boredom ain't cured" |
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 Moenkie
Male, 18-29, Western US
481 Posts
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Friday, December 14, 2007 1:42:39 PM
Read Animal Liberation by Peter Singer sometime.Also, the two pet stores around here sell puppies/kittens that they have brought in from the SPCA. |
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