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 samiam2281
Female, 18-29, Western US
 105 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 11:10:07 AM
And trust me, I'm very far from a cop-hating person. I think they're great people for doing what they do to help others and I have called for help many many times. Even when I was pulled over I agree that he was right and I was very wrong, but they're humans too and this one is wrong. |
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samiam2281
Female, 18-29, Western US
105 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 11:09:22 AM
I just got out an old speeding ticket of mine and it does say that if I don't sign it that I will be placed under arrest. But the thing is there are 4 options on it for me to sign for, one agreeing that I sped and that I will pay the fine, one agreeing that I sped, but the cop is letting me go with a warning, one for court appearance and one for traffic arraignment. I'd like to know if the cop even tried to give that option for fighting it in court. Then the cop has him getting out of the car, which I'm sure the driver thinks is him agreeing to "go look back for the first 40 MPH sign" and the guy gets out of the car thinking that's what he's going to do and the cop puts him under arrest. That's kind of crap to me. Sure the guy argued and I sure wouldn't have, but I think there's a right way and a wrong way to go about doing things and I think that this is the WRONG way on the cops part. I really hope the cop gets in trouble for this. |
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 beniscool1
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
86 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 10:57:49 AM
photoshopped |
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 quedas
Male, 18-29, Europe
167 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 10:51:14 AM
"Not that I approve of police brutality, but he WAS holding his hand in his pocket while turning away from the cop" - C'mon, that was SO not the reason why they tasered him. And please, don't give any more arguments to the "let's they fry anyone who even looks at me the wrong way" crowd... |
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 Hansbo
Male, 18-29, Europe
903 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 10:48:49 AM
Not that I approve of police brutality, but he WAS holding his hand in his pocket while turning away from the cop. |
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 piratepigz12
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
632 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 10:28:36 AM
wow, I read that wrong. I thought he tasered a pregnant wife. |
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 summerfly
Female, 18-29, Southern US
149 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 10:20:52 AM
Wow they really need to take those things away. Cops seem to be going on some sort of tasing spree(or it's just getting a lot more publicity..One of the two) |
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 Invalok
Male, 18-29, Western US
729 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 10:07:41 AM
Meh, lets just get to the point were cops start shooting people with real bullets over minor inconveniences, so that someone can actually "DO" something about the drating situation. |
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quedas
Male, 18-29, Europe
167 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 9:17:05 AM
I'm not talking about whether or not all these guys being tasered deserve it or not. I don't give a s*hit. More humane than getting physical?! Are you f*ucki*ng kidding me?! You mean there was no way he could at least try to pin his arms on his back and cuff him? The problem with tasers is that because it's less brutal than a gun these id*iots think its ok to just use them at will. Why? Because it doesn't kill? Guess what, it actually does sometimes. Placing someone under arrest does not have to always be accompanied by brutal violence. Because that's what it is, don't try and kid yourselves. I find it hard to believe that all these guys are just huge drama queens. As oposed to all the others taking their taserings in stride. But do you know what scares me the most? It's that my counter-point is being given by people actually capable of a cognitive process. I would be much less frightened it my opponents where just the number one fans of Larry The Cable Guy... |
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 wakeofshadow
Female, 13-17, Asia
173 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 9:03:52 AM
the tape was reviewed after "after video of the incident was posted on YouTube,". well nice to know i t has to b exposed to the public.i think the guy being tasered was not to unreasonable. he should stayed out of the car and not move around. but the cop didn't warn him or read him his rights.the whole thing could be dropped now. |
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 Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 9:02:38 AM
Incidentally source 2:
What if the officer was rude?If the officer had to follow you for a quarter-mile or more until you noticed him in your rearview mirror, he may be unhappy. You were guilty of "contempt of cop," which happens when you don't do whatever it is an officer wants you to do. Regardless, it is not a good idea for you to act in a similar manner. |
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Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 8:56:58 AM
You sign the paper so you don't have to be arrested.
He didn't sign, he got VALIDLY arrested. Source 1:
The traffic ticket contains an actual notice to you of a pending court date at which you must appear. By signing the ticket, you are providing an acknowledgment of receipt of the "notice to appear." Since the officer is charging you with a violation of law, he could take you into custody.... It is better to sign the traffic ticket and go about your business pending the court date. By signing the traffic ticket, you remain free and retain the right to show up at the hearing to contest the issuance of the citation or summons. A person is free to refuse to sign the traffic ticket; however, the police officer is free to place him/her under arrest and take him/her into custody. |
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 cybercow
Male, 30-39, Canada
104 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 8:35:40 AM
The man was exercising his rights to not sign a paper, and the police officer assaulted him and falsely arrested him.If I were the guy, I would sue the state for $100 million.
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Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 8:34:27 AM
Incidentally, why are we on our 9th tasering video here on IAB? Doesn't this get pretty old pretty fast? |
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cybercow
Male, 30-39, Canada
104 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 8:33:33 AM
dratING PIG !!I HOPE SOMEBODY SHOOTS HIM!! THIS IS WHY ALL COPS SHOULD DIE !! |
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 kooshi_govno
Male, 13-17, Southern US
339 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 8:19:48 AM
PIG |
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Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 8:15:40 AM
P.s. I prefer the title "Man tasered after speeding with pregnant wife and child in car". :PIncidentally Quedas, most cops in the states are TASERED as part of their training so they know/understand what it feels like. You can argue your case in traffic court, there's no reason to be a bitch to the traffic cop and give him a hard time. Incidentally, it's not like most people, or the police dept, or even he himself felt he was doing anything wrong. It's his own videotape and he knows it's running. It's not unreasonable force if there's no less force he could use, and quite frankly at that stage he had a choice of becoming physical or tasering the guy. Tasering is the more humane of the two. |
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 BubbaLuvSpon
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
158 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 8:11:04 AM
...another case of the missing text!Anyway, the taser was designed to prevent physical combat. |
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BubbaLuvSpon
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
158 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 8:09:34 AM
^^^ The only problem with that is... If the person is armed, then they wouldn't pull out a taser, they would pull out a gun.From the very beginning, the driver was "asking for it". Why argue with the officer? Oh yeah, because he's an idiot. Also, the officer did not do a good job of explaining what was going on. "Going a little fast, huh" and "Sir, I monitored you driving 55 (or whatever) in a 40 mph zone" is not the same thing. The second tells the guy excatly why he's being stopped. I don't know about Utah, but where I live, people don't have to legally sign a speeding ticket. Now, if it was Reckless Driving, yes, they do, but not speeding. If he could take the guy to jail over not signing the ticket, he should have attempted to explain that before getting him out of the car. (Not that the driver would have listened) Lastly, the officer was WAY to quick on pulling the taser. "Johnny Two-Tokes" should know that the taser was designed t |
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quedas
Male, 18-29, Europe
167 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 7:04:20 AM
I'm sorry, but anyone who even thinks tasering an unarmed man is remotely acceptable needs to have a taser gun shoved up his a*ss. This isn't even open for a debate. Just go away and die. Please. |
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 Itsdude56
Male, 13-17, Asia
901 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 5:16:06 AM
so...after all the taser videos have been released its ok for police to just pull out a taser gun? |
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krusty2514
Male, 70 & Over, Southern US
183 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 4:23:56 AM
that cops ass is going to be sued into oblivion |
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 toneman
Male, 30-39, Asia
528 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 3:48:23 AM
Well, I'm not sure how this will turn out but Mr. Massey is certainly deserving of an Oscar as he plays up his truama and distress! I would do the same thing! Good on him!!http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/22/national/main3534130.shtml |
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toneman
Male, 30-39, Asia
528 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 2:47:16 AM
Oh yeah...one more thing...I've always heard those Mormons were bad asses! |
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toneman
Male, 30-39, Asia
528 Posts
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Friday, November 23, 2007 2:46:08 AM
That really is too bad. It's jackasses like this the make many Americans distrust police officers. Believe it or not, more really do want to do good things...not to play the Devil's advocate. I'd really like to know what came of this.By the way, the speeding ticket was not 'alleged.' The matter of whether he was actually speeding was alleged. The ticket was more than real. |
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