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Tasered for Not Signing Speeding Ticket

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Zerocyde
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3279 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 5:21:03 AM
@ Randy4861

*stands and applauds*

HEAR-dratING-HEAR


Zerocyde
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3279 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 5:18:55 AM
Dude, therussian, wtf are you babbling about? Who the drat ever said anything about giving cops ANY power?

"Better yet, let's live in fear of being shot on any traffic stop."

Alright, you are retarded. You're the exact type of idiot I was talking about. You seem to think that cops are drating judges.


TeHrussian
Male, 18-29, Western US
 492 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:53:56 AM
You know what, yeah, let's completely give up and liberty we have! As a matter of fact, we should institute subliminal messages telling us to obey whatever a person working in the government tells us.

Of course, lets also consider what qualifications one needs to become a cop. A high school diploma, average physical shape and citizenship? A few months of training? And lets not forget that a dangerous job with comparably low compensation attracts only the best and the brightest. And no, they're not human and never make mistakes or take advantage of their authority!

Seriously, let's just become zombies and refuse to challenge authority. Better yet, let's live in fear of being shot on any traffic stop.


Randy4861
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 177 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 3:36:37 AM
Ok, I am now convinced that we have raised a country full of idiots! quedas is leading the way. Pin his arms instead of deploying the taser? Get out of you video games and into the real world. Its real simple here in America. What a police officer tells you to do is a LAWFUL ORDER. Failure to follow this is obstructing or resisting. Go to any other county and get beat with the night stick if you think the taser is worse. Actually, most countries would do much worse. These punks that called their parents by their first names and defied athority at every turn need to learn the simple rules of society. I didn't fight in two conflicts to give you freedom to scoff society and its laws. Shut up, LISTEN to the officer, and in America we argue in court, not with the officer that is doing his job. You were speeding, take your ticket and shut up! The taser and the camera are the best tools police have. Better than a beat down in an alley. Get real, this world owes you punks nothing.

TeHrussian
Male, 18-29, Western US
 492 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 3:28:45 AM
ROFL @ zerocyde!

"If everyone would just do what cops tell them to, cops wouldn't carry any weapons ever!"

Let's give them absolute power and hope they're not corrupted! Seriously!

If he's not in danger, he doesn't get to use it. Tazer is NOT a tool for compliance, it's a non-lethal tool of defense!


Zerocyde
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3279 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:28:52 AM
And TeHrussian, Ya know what? If it was up to me, cops wouldn't carry tazers, just guns. And if it was up to me, the man in this video would have been shot dead.

As horrifying as that sounds, guess what? The fact still remains, if everyone followed cop's orders, no one would get shot even under my rule.

And if idiots like the guy in this video knew that that was an option, they would be FAR less likly to disobey in the first place.

When you coddle anything, it flourishes, even ignorance.


Zerocyde
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3279 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:23:25 AM
I will bet you anything that if it had been me in that idiot's place, that that would have been the most boring video ever.

WhY WHY WHY WHY WHY?!??!?! Do so many drating morons (like this guy) out there believe that cops are drating judges? Why the drating hell would you try to argue the validity of the speeding ticket with the cop?!?! Its like getting into a screaming match with your mailman because you don't agree with your drating phone bill!

If everyone would just do what cops tell them to, cops wouldn't carry any weapons ever!


Zerocyde
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3279 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:19:02 AM
"I'm sorry, but anyone who even thinks tasering an unarmed man is remotely acceptable needs to have a taser gun shoved up his a*ss. This isn't even open for a debate. Just go away and die. Please."

Maybe if you're Bruce drating Lee! Are you drating retarded? Do you honestly thing that the job of a cop is to bring exciting UFC action to your car door? No moron. I'm sorry that you don't give a drat about the safety of our law enforcers, but some people do.

A cop's job isn't to roam the streets looking for people who do things that cop personally doesn't like, and then challenging them to a dratin duel to decide weather or not the cops beliefs are to be upheld.

There is law. Cops look for people not following the law. If they find one, the cop is to either issue a citation or detain them to be judged by a *gasp* judge at a latter time.

IF YOUR DUMB ASS DOES NOT FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF THE COP TO THE dratING LETTER, THEN YOU GET FORCED TO. End of drating story.


Gnarkill07
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 121 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:06:04 AM
all you fu(king foreigners can shut the fu(k up. that cop had EVER right to do that. that stupid guy should just sign the frickin paper and go on his way. if he felt he was wronged, he can fight it in traffic court. instead, the fu(king idiot started running around and disobeying a police officers direct orders. i applaud this officers response to the situation. if it were me, i would have done the exact same thing.

Declan191919
Male, 13-17, Australia
 1529 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:39:22 AM
iTS WRONG

tjanator
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 146 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:15:58 AM
that is terrible.

TeHrussian
Male, 18-29, Western US
 492 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:55:01 AM
"The cop did nothing wrong in this video. The driver, however, was a classic textbook moron."

Makes me want to smack patridiot upside the head. Why do you say that? because only one of them can be wrong? Look back a page and read the story behind this. By UHP's own admission, they're only authorized to use tasers when a person is a danger to himself or others.

Cops DON'T have any right to taser you for walking in the opposite direction. There was nothing in the driver's demeanor that would suggest he was or was becoming violent.

I'm not making any excuse for the driver acting stupid (look a few posts above), but...

The cop is a power-corrupted non-nice individual. His real gripe was that the driver was not doing exactly as told. Instead of explaining about challenging a ticket in traffic court.
Read about what power does to people:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_pr...


chillywhack
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 142 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 11:53:14 PM
Seems to me the cop was a little quick on the draw. But, the whole thing about it being in front of pregnant wife and baby is a bit dramatic.

Smollet
Male, 13-17, Western US
 98 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 11:47:13 PM
This is what happens when stupid meets stupid.

kodkilla
Male, 18-29, Western US
 15 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 11:22:58 PM
Was I the only one who laughed when the other cop came on and said he rid the teaser? The cop seemed like a nice guy. People are both stupid and hippie-fagg*t-p*ssy here I guess? Not the admins of course, they just post the stuff.

patridiot
Male, 30-39, Western US
 120 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 11:09:06 PM
rule #1: Don't argue with the cop. If you have a beef with the ticket, take it and your evidence to the courts. Or just be a man and admit you screwed up.

rule #2: Don't be a prick. The squeaky wheel may get the grease at WalMart. Use your brain and realize the cop isn't trying to earn your business. Be nice to the cop, don't give a lame excuse, and you may just get a warning.

rule #3: Do what the cop tells you to do. He/she doesn't know you from Adam and his/her #1 priority is to go home at the end of the shift. There is no room for assumption when their life may be on the line. Expect them to use force or taser if you resist their commands.

The cop did nothing wrong in this video. The driver, however, was a classic textbook moron.

I've met some prick officers, this isn't one of them.


NOFX14
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1143 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 10:18:00 PM
getting a bit carried away with the tasers now eh? so ridiculous

Neagle
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1405 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 9:23:31 PM
The officer was obviously poorly/under trained in his people handling skills or he is just a prick with a bad attitude. Right or wrong, this officer is screwed. This is an example what not to do if your a law enforcement officer or a traffic offender. Always sign the receipt for a ticket and always sign not guilty even if you are. You can usually change your plea and pay the fine before going to court.

Putzpie
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 200 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 8:45:35 PM
"THIS IS WHY ALL COPS SHOULD DIE !!"-cybercow
And then what?

TeHrussian
Male, 18-29, Western US
 492 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 8:21:32 PM
Just because he's supposed to read the rights, doesn't mean he has to. The only real difference it makes is if the perpetrator confesses to anything, if he was not read his rights, it is not admissible in the court of law.

In the original case Miranda was arrested for rape and confessed while in custody. However, he was not aware of his right to remain silent, and the case was thrown out of court. Now, Miranda rights are a requirement before any interrogation. The reason they are usually read at the time of arrest, is because it is not uncommon for a perp to make incriminating statements before an interrogation.

On the situation itself: the driver is legally at fault for disobeying instructions. He does not realize that the cop already made up his mind about his guilt, which is why he was pulled over, so arguing is pointless. He should sign the ticket and contest it in traffic court.

The cop obviously exceeded reasonable force and should suffer the consequences.


tgirl149
Female, 13-17, Southern US
 527 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 7:41:04 PM
al of you guys are a-holes, seriously, tasering should be against the law, just like using guns in casual ordeals

Somnerkai
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 2 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 6:36:28 PM
***CONTINUED***
that the officer just made it up).
4) Also as stated earlier, when placed under arrest, the officer *does not* have to read you your rights. That comes when you are charged or questioned.
5) I agree that the officer was a quick on the draw with the taser. However, that does not make him a prick or any of the other names that people here have called him. The subject in this case was arguementative and not obeying the officer's clear directions ("Place your hands behind your back."). In fact, when told to do so, the subject backed away, turned, and walked back toward his vehicle. That is a big BIG *B*I*G* No NO when dealing with any officer during a traffic stop. The officer can only assume for his own safety that you are disobeying for a nefarious purpose (like to run or get a weapon, or otherwise resist arrest). Drawing a weapon such as a taser is standard operating procedure at this point for almost all Highway Patrol Divisions.

GothicQueen
Male, 13-17, Africa
 4412 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 6:31:48 PM
it doesn't matter tasering the man was completely wrong. you don't taser someone for not signing a speeding ticket. you calmly explain in a civilized professional manner that if you do not sign the ticket you will be arrested but no he just went all taser happy

Somnerkai
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 2 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 6:31:08 PM
1) The officer was just doing his job. The reason that he pulled over just before the sign is to enforce the law. You can see those signs a considerable distance away. They mean that you are suppossed to be at that speed when you reach the sign, not start slowing down when you reach it.
2) The officer was in a marked patrol car. How low does your IQ have to be to see a very large 40 MPH Speed limit sign, with a Highway Patrol car *parked* near it, to not slow down to the proper speed???? Besides, if it is limited to 40 MPH, it is likely that there is construction ahead, so the driver was likely putting someone else's life in danger by speeding...
3) As stated earlier, you do not have to sign a speeding ticket. However, if you do not, the officer *can* legally place you under arrest. In fact, they should, otherwise there is no legal evidence for a court of law to use to try the subject of the alleged offense (if you are not arrested and did not sign the ticket, you could just say.

BubbaLuvSpon
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 158 Posts
Friday, November 23, 2007 6:22:53 PM
^^^ If he would have looked at the ticket, it would have said how fast he was going.

Don't think an officer is pointing the taser at you to show you his new toy. He's going to use it if you don't listen.

As pointed out, reading someone their rights is done when questioning them. "You have the right to remain silent..." Doesn't have anything to do with being arrested.

It's scary how people will shout out what they "know" to be the law, and be completely wrong. Too many people get their law degree from Law & Order or CSI.


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