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Tasered for Not Signing Speeding Ticket

Hits: 26898 | Rating: (3.2) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: bob2083
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JeanaH
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 461 Posts
Sunday, March 09, 2008 12:23:53 PM
I feel sorry the wife and child had to witness that.

s2thab
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2 Posts
Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:42:31 PM
kill the cop, that's all I have to say

beeyooteeful
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 546 Posts
Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:36:13 PM
"that cops ass is going to be sued into oblivion"

LOL
I agree!


rojodesigner
Female, 30-39, Eastern US
 101 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:00:29 PM
Most cops are dicks cause they can be. Plain and simple. The nice ones should fight to get bad cops like this fired because it gives all of them a bad name.
Think Im not right...arent you surprised when you meet a really kind officer?
Of course you are...its like seeing a rainbow...rare and beautiful.

rifter
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 282 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:19:04 PM
Jazeme: You have to understand that the officer didn't use the taser because the guy was speeding or didn't sign the ticket. He tased him because he was walking away after being told to stop. Turning your back on an officer and reaching your hand into your pocket is considered a perceived threat. That's what the guy did wrong.

And we don't how much the guy was speeding so you can't say it was "slightly."

You are required to sign a citation when you are given one. It's merely an acknowledgment of receipt. If you refuse, you can be arrested for refusing to obey a lawful order. It says plainly on the citation that it not an acknowledgment of guilt.

Judging by your age, you haven't dealt enough with troopers to understand what they are really there for. Nor have you been driving long enough to understand the nuances of how it all works. I'm not age-bashing. Just saying you haven't reached that point yet.


Jazeme
Female, 13-17, Midwest US
 26 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2007 5:00:15 PM
"I'm sorry, but anyone who even thinks tasering an unarmed man is remotely acceptable needs to have a taser gun shoved up his a*ss. This isn't even open for a debate. Just go away and die. Please"
first off to be issued a taser that cop WAS tasered. he knows what it feels like. however, just because the guy did not sign the ticket does NOT mean he gets arrested. it just means it sucks when he goes to court. that trooper has espically no right to taser him considering he really didn't do anything wrong except speed slightly. though yes he should have stopped walking back towards the truck when the officer told him to...
and people wonder why i dislike troopers...

VONLINE
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 573 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2007 3:44:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEpUtoUzE4U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB2U2bwqaWY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utSjnTqPipc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAhKGlh1OEY


rifter
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 282 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2007 1:07:58 PM
Also, the guy is being pretty overdramatic. "I got arrested in front of my wife and kids. This is an outrage!" Yeah, well, buddy, a lot of people get arrested under more embarrassing situations.

I like the part where he says he felt like his life was slipping away. That's what it supposed to feel like! I've been hit twice with a Taser, both times willingly. The first one felt like I had been dosed with a paralyzing agent and burned with a lighter. The second time, I was ready for it, and it felt like my whole body was on fire. I could move a little bit, but not enough for it to have made any difference if I wanted to hurt anyone. And the barbs leave nice little burns where they touch your skin.

And the ones saying, "tasers could kill," should understand that just about any effort to subdue a suspect can kill. How about a neck fracture while being forced to the ground? Heart attack from being scared?

Just do what they say (within reason) and you wo


rifter
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 282 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2007 12:57:25 PM
Randy4861: What a police officer tells you to do is a LAWFUL ORDER. Failure to follow this is obstructing or resisting.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you mis-spoke. Just because an officer tells you to do something does not make it lawful.

On to the video:
First, the driver was incorrect in his assumption of his rights. He has to sign the citation saying that he received it. That's all you need to sign it for.
Secondly, if you watch the video, you'll see the officer pulls the Taser and points it at the driver. That pretty much says "I'm going to use this if you don't stop and do what I tell you. NOW!" The Taser was used after the guy reached into his pocket and turned around. That's a perceived threat and worthy of a Tasering.
Thirdly, if the guy has asked to see the radar gun, the officer has to comply (evidence of wrongdoing). If not, the ticket is invalid (personal experience).


Lucky2u
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 314 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2007 12:23:15 PM
well i guess since we're abandoning common sense... your right if he told you to kill yourself that would be an order you dont have to follow, but i dont remember hearing that in the video. As for tasering being a last resort? the taser was invented to be an alternative to physical violence and to be a better weapon choice then a baton or gun. It shouldnt be your first choice, but it should be pretty high up there on your choices.

if taser is the last choice are you saying a gun is more acceptable then a taser? the cop was not completly right here, but a taser is NON LETHAL force, so attempted murder is just ignorant you dumb ass. the chance to die from a taser is extremly low and the people that do are not usually in the best health condition, and shouldnt be challenging cops in the first place.


xp
Male, 30-39, Western US
 543 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2007 3:12:02 AM
No you do not have to do what a cop says. For example: If a cop hands you a gun and tells you to shoot yourself, legally you can refuse.

Tasing someone should be the last resort. This officer should be charged with attempted murder and thrown in jail for 10-20 with no chance for parole. This person should never work in law enforcement again once out of prison. Simple as that.


Lucky2u
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 314 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2007 1:19:19 AM
and for those arguing about not having to do what the cop says, thats bull. You always do what a cop says. The confusion here is that you DONT have to do what a cop ASKS. There is a differance between "get out of your car" and "would you mind stepping out of your car?"

the first was an order, that you must do (and if you dont like it, you can sue/argue about it later in court) the second was a request that you may say "no" to. The problem is not alot of people really pay attention to wether or not they were asked or told something when it comes to cops.

and on a side note, its your responsibility as an american to know your dam rights, ignorance is not an excuse and is dam right disrespectful and if you get mistreated by a cop because you didn't know then its your fault. put the dam xbox 360 controller down and read your dam rights! cause guess what? the cops already did.


Lucky2u
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 314 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2007 1:13:27 AM
its very easy to "monday night quarterback" the situation, we have the benefit of looking at this from the outside, with a pause button. But either way, what we have here is two human beings coming to conflict.

There is no right side here, the driver was a stubborn idiot who didnt realise that the cop is not the one you argue your case to, thats what traffic court is for. The cop had many BETTER options then the taser, but was still not grossly unreasonable for choosing it. All you people who say the taser is brutal and horrible have obviously never been tased. I have. The pain doesnt even come from the electricity it comes from all your muscles clenching at once. Here is a little excercise for you. Clench your fist as HARD as you can, it hurts sure. Now let it go. Notice how fast the pain leaves? People dont fall to the ground from the pain, they fall cause they lost control of their muscles. Still for a speeding ticket it was a bit much.

conclusion? humans are all idio


Kitzy
Female, 18-29, Canada
 15 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:19:06 PM
Pretty stupid that this cop didn't actually do his duty right. He was supposed to first tell him how fast he was going, what he's charged with and tell him his rights.
And he had no right to taser someone who was asking why he was being charged.

gregdaniels
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 14 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:45:24 AM
I can't believe you people think the cop was in the wrong. These people DESERVED it. You ALWAYS do what a cop says, and ask questions later. Take the ticket, even if they hadn't done something wrong, and fight it in court, or call their office.

glocktypus
Female, 18-29, Western US
 435 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2007 1:58:14 AM
Why didn't he just sign it? Everyone involved is an ass...

WNLD
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 226 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2007 1:15:10 AM
Sorry if my question is a repeat; I only made it through the second page of comments. Where was the microphone for this incident? Was the cop wearing it on his body?? If so, has that become standard procedure to go along with the car cam?

IMHO all three of them are stupid idiots. I have to stop subjecting myself to these videos, because they made me very sad without really teaching me anything new - or giving me any ideas about how I could make things better.

A society of overgrown babies.


TheGrag
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 1548 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:39:39 AM
*completely agrees with Zerpcyde to stay out of the argument*

DemonCurtain
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 246 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:07:56 PM
Enjoy your police state.

Zerocyde
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3279 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:45:40 PM
@TeHrussian

Cops have ONE authority. To inform you that they believe you have committed a crime, and that they will be filing the incident with the court, and to detain you until a you can be seen by a judge if you might be a threat to civilian safety or a risk of repeating the crime.

I never ONCE advocated giving cops any more authority than that. I only advocated that the idiots in this county started RESPECTING that authority for a dratin change.

@rhugga
Wrongful or not, it never would have happened if you idiots hadn't been doing something illegal. And I say good, I hope your little idiot pothead friends get in lots of trouble.

Do I say good because I think what the cop did was right? No, he obviously was in the wrong. And should be punished... doesn't mean I cant enjoy a few potheads getting busted though. :)

Ohh, and 95% of the public doesn't hate cops, 95% of ignorant teenage failures hate cops.


BubbaLuvSpon
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 158 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:33:56 PM
And to address what someone had posted... Most states have built in to their training at the police academy and session about pepper spray. Usually, to conclude that training, they are sprayed with pepper spray, then "attacked", or put in a position to protect themselves.

I don't know if the taser has worked its way into the police academy yet. In not, I'm sure it won't be long (if the tasers stick around) before they are. I do know that while the taser company does not require that a person be tased, it's usually the departments policy to require that.

Those things are required so the officer has a respect for what he uses. Odd, since the officer is not required to take a beating with a baton, or take a shot from a .40 cal to respect those things.


BubbaLuvSpon
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 158 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:26:19 PM
Wow... hate cops, attack cops, kill cops... This place is filled with a bunch of crazy ass people! You claim to be superior, but you make statements like that. Yeah, there are bad cops. You also see cops being arrested all the time. Who do you think makes those arrests? Guess what, it's cops doing the right thing. I can tell you, when a cop sees another doing something against the law, he does not cover it up. Do you know why? Because his career and life is on the line if he does. Don't think for a minute that cops don't know what it's like to be attacked. It happens every day! Like someone said, these people are not just cops, they belong to a family, a family that worries about them every time they put on the uniform and start their duty.

Also let's not forget... it's not against the law for them to use the taser. In fact, usually their department policy tells them when to use their taser.


Zerocyde
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3279 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:25:02 PM
*i stop what I'm doing and follow the cops instructions to the letter instead of asking whats wrong with him and walking away, directly disobeying an order.*

Zerocyde
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3279 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:22:46 PM
Transcription of this video had it been me.

Version 1:

Cop: "Now I'm gonna need you to sign this ticket."
Me: "Of course, I was speeding after all."
Cop: "Have a nice day sir."
Me: "Heh, Ill try."

Version 2 (disagree):

Cop: "Now I'm gonna need you to sign this ticket."
Me: "Alright, but just to let you know I disagree with this ticket, and will be challanging this in court"
Cop: *shrug* "Fine, thats your right sir."

Version 3 (STRONGLY disagree):
Cop: "Now I'm gonna need you to sign this ticket."
Me: (deciding to be a drating idiot that thinks cops are judges) "No, I ain't signing anything."
Cop: "Sir, step out of the vehicle."
Me: *I step out and start walking around behind the cop like a drating moron*
Cop: "Turn around, put your hands behind your back!"
Me: "Oh snap, you got a dratin tazer!" *i stop what I'm doing and foll


Zerocyde
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3279 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:13:05 PM
You all are just drating idiots. But thats ok. Keep mouthing off to the cops and disrespecting them. Have fun getting tasered. Those of us who enjoy crime free lives and safe surroundings will go on having perfectly normal interactions with cops.

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