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Who Really Owns You?

Hits: 15629 | Rating: (3.1) | Category: Misc. | Added by: Snoogans
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Starfall
Male, 18-29, Western US
 71 Posts
Friday, February 20, 2009 7:15:08 PM
R.I.P
George Carlin
May 12, 1937 – June 22, 2008

oddstolive
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 3 Posts
Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:38:39 AM
Go Mr. Carlin

Abacab2112
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 432 Posts
Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:54:14 AM
xxminglexx
Female, 13-17, Midwest US
297 Posts Friday, August 10, 2007 3:03:36 AM
Hahahah, George Carlin for president!
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Him as president almost scares me as much as Hillary... ugghh...

R_U_Kidding
Male, 18-29, Canada
 4278 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2007 4:14:57 AM
My head hurts.

Neagle
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1405 Posts
Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:44:12 PM
World domination will not be at the hands of any one government nor religion but, by the doctorate of cooperate consumerism and this crosses all forms of governments.

idiotkiller
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 162 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 6:46:40 PM
sunnysong, you've proved alot of random facts, but you haven't said anything about you our your way of life being threatened, just that rich people pay politicians, and that corporations "control" the media.

mrcristo
Male, 18-29, Western US
 284 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 5:01:55 PM
Don't look at me like I'm great, mister 273 posts. What I'm saying is that this whole money = votes thing only applies to wholesome people who sit at home more concerned more bout voting for American Idol than for their own senator. money doesn't buy buy an informed american's vote, your arguement is based on The majority of Americans being smart, caring little lambs, and if that's true, than I'm utilizing my time here, and I'm not here to prove anything, I actually have some interest in politics and these debates are good practice. I don't like responding to agruements based on assumption, liek that corporations fix the media and that George Bush is going to use his power to put guilty people in jail instead of possible terrorsit threats. You have very little facts backing up your opinions, with a few vague references to China and George Orwell novels. And you say our view points matter and you point out the fact that interenet forums are the place to begin changes.

Much nicer.


idiotkiller
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 162 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 4:59:14 PM
Don't look at me like I'm pathetic, mister 273 posts. What I'm saying is that this whole money = votes thing only applies to idiots who sit at home more concerned more bout voting for American Idol than for their own senator. money doesn't buy buy an informed american's vote, your arguement is based on The majority of Americans being stupid, uncaring little lambs, and if that's true, than I'm wasteing my time here, and I'm not here to prove anything, I actually have some interest in politics and these debates are good practice. I don't like responding to agruements based on assumption, liek that corporations fix the media and that George Bush is going to use his power to put innocent people in jail instead of possible terrorsit threats. You have very little facts backing up your opinions, with a few vague references to China and George Orwell novels. And you say our view points don't matter, despite the fact that you say that interenet forums are the place to begin changes.

The_Maddog
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3192 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:37:03 PM
I'd like to say I've been thinking what George Carlin is preaching for a long time...
But as for people not doing something about it..what exactly can you do? unless your succesful and make money your screwed. Think about it. You need financial backing to be a politician, so you either do it all off your own back and risk everything or you end up on someones payroll, like it or not, and lets be honest...your average family man isnt going to risk everything!

As the "man on the street" I simply voice my concern's, protest against injustice and stand my ground.


sunnysongbrd
Female, 18-29, Western US
 532 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:51:52 PM
Yeah, idiotkiller, my point was exactly that: I *don't* listen to the media. I find as many things to read on a subject as I can, from as many viewpoints as possible, and then I make up my own mind about it. I do believe that that's called research. You act like I'm propagating somebody else's opinion, and I'm not. I'm spreading the word that I really do think that we need to act out more, if we disagree with what's going on. And what about the issues I did bring up other than the (yes, it was rather oversimplified for the idiots, as I stated clearly) MONEY = VOTES issue. You didn't actually respond to anything I said, Idiot, you just criticized and harrassed me for my opinion. I haven't seena political commercial since high school, where they MADE us watch the different parties' commercials in order to analyze them.

Oh, and btw, everybody who has posted on here, including you, is trying to act important like their viewpoint matters. George Carlin can just get on TV with it.


idiotkiller
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 162 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:35:53 AM
Sunny, you're missing the point, politicians aren't alone, they belong to a party, and that party has rules. He will always have supporters and money, and I think you may be over-exagerating the link between money and votes. Maybe in your stupid, anti-media little world where no one does there own research and actually listens to those political comercials, and if you do actually do this, you should be ashamed. You don't like the media? well then don't watch it. And by the way, what George Carlin is doing here. You don't like bush, don't vote for him, but he must have don'e something right, because he got more than half the votes of the electoral collage. And of course you have no proof that corporations are adjusting the media to their "advantage", but provided you did find some, there still arguement against that. You don't like fox news? don't watch it. watch some happy cartoon show where everything is right and fun, or watch some dumbass comedian try to act important.

Brant167
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 107 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 8:57:37 AM
The truth is that the baby boom generation created such a mess with their “I want” mentality that it has spawn horrendous government spending that so many now are conditioned to depend on. The more you depend on these governments given “necessities” like social security, medicare, and government (public) schools the more of a pawn of the government you will be. He has it right however it’s not the CEO’s that are the problem it’s the “give me” mentality funded by the government (mostly liberal but now conservative politicians as well) that has dug our society in this hole. If you want to be free make sure you do not depend on the government for anything.

Yaos
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 78 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 4:42:39 AM
It's funny that you guys are listening t a guy that wants to control you. Good going George Carlin, you've got the idiots in here listening to you and thinking you're not part of the problem.

sunnysongbrd
Female, 18-29, Western US
 532 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:29:42 AM
(which, China's isn't in meltdown or anything, by the way, it just needs work, but so does ours) and our parents and our grandparents stood up and said something! We sit placidly by.

Let me tell you, religion is no longer the opiate of the masses. POP CULTURE is.

We will agree to anything as long as we can have our pizza delivered to our door (within 30 minutes or else we don't pay, dammit) and our remote or video game controller in our hands.

We SHOULD be speaking out! Yes, stupid internet forums are the place to begin. They're like the college coffee shops that our parents went to. Next, comes small lectures, talking about things that skirt around and hint at the real issues. Then come the megaphones, the protests, the FRIGGIN REVOLUTION.

OUR SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK, AND WE ARE THE ONES WHO CAN FIX IT.

I don't ever want the novel 1984 to come true, and yet, I already see groupthink, and brainwashing...

I'm afraid.


sunnysongbrd
Female, 18-29, Western US
 532 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:24:19 AM
And so, we end up with a media that ultimately tends to support anything and everything that other corporations puts out there, because they PAY THEM WELL ENOUGH.

Also, anybody saying politicians work for votes, not money, let me break it down real simple for ya:

MONEY = VOTES

You know why there's laws making it necessary for a poor man to get some little chunk of the voters' money to run for office??? Because some honest politicians back in the day realized that the more money you have to spread your face around, and petition, and get your name out there, the more votes you ultimately get.

NO MONEY = NO VOTES

There, you idiots should get it now.

George Carlin is totally right in this speech. We are all sheep, and even enraged as I am now, I feel totally ashamed that I'm not doing more about it.

No more than a few decades ago, a mindless war broke out simply because we didn't like another country's economic system-

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sunnysongbrd
Female, 18-29, Western US
 532 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:20:53 AM
Idiotkiller, you should get rid of the "killer" part of your name... Unless you're going to kill yourself.

You obviously have not been watching these past, oh, ten or so years at the very least. George Bush and his WHOLE ADMINISTRATION (not just using him as the scapegoat) have SHAT all OVER the Constitution! DIdn't you know there was a bill passed just a few months ago that completely took away your right to habeus corpus??? Yes, that means they can throw you in jail for whatever reason, and never give you a trial or even tell you what you are charged with. Gee, the French King had something like that, prior to the Revolution, called "carte blanche", and it means "GET WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT BECAUSE I CAN!"

Christ, people! The corporations aren't the happy face of Walmart all the time! Wake up! THE MEDIA IS RUN BY A TOTAL OF ABOUT FIVE CORPORATIONS. They go where the money goes, or where the public surveys say the money will go...

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idiotkiller
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 162 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:20:44 AM
I hardly consider a conspiracy speech slandering corporations and the common man. and don't suddenly go all "yeah, The rest of America isn't trying to earn their freedom" well he's talking about you, and your friend, and your grandma, he's saying that you are sitting on your ass doing nothing. I'm going to pretend that since you're reading this you have a well paying job, and you work hard every day to earn your keep so you can have a roof over your head and food on your plate, and if you're younger than I think then you're probably working hard at school so that one day you can start your career and start your own family, and this guys saying you're lying down and takingwhatever these "evil crporations" are throwing at you? No, you're working hard, and if you have any sense at all you'll know that you have more important things to do than worry about some whack-job comedian who thinks he's better than you's conspiracy theories about anti-capitalism.

The_Maddog
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3192 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:38:45 AM
Belive him! It's not "just" America, it's happening here in the UK too.
Let me put it to you this way, I've been put out of work twice in the past 15 years, due to the company i worked for moving jobs abroad. Cheaper labour and bigger profits for the company..but sho gained from the profits? The top dogs. the last company I worked for cut back 2000 (to move to china) jobs to save £12 million a year. The board of directors then gave themselves a huge payrise (14 people in total) of 1/2 a mill each!
now we have companys like British Airways, price fixing, litterally laughing at a £300 mill fine, then getting a legal go ahead to have anyone who protests against a new runway, arrested.
Am I bitter..You bet I am. this is becoming very common..the companys are starting to run the show. Dont think a politician isnt in the back pocket of one firm or another. Just remember who funded them to get where they are.

bdiddy307
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1328 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:29:32 AM
Nice speech.

-NeonCarrot-
Male, 13-17, Canada
 1599 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:23:02 AM
PWNED!

idiotkiller
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 162 Posts
Friday, August 10, 2007 10:58:44 PM
And provided some CEO has managed to bribe the President and half the senate, AND half the house of representatives, something That would cost much, much, MUCH more trouble than it was worth, there still this handy dandy ting called the constitution, something absolutely no one can override. I'm not saying the country is perfect, but if you want a true utopian society, attacking capatalism is not the way to go. Maybe introducing a voucher school system, killing bad government programs like the NEA, social security, IRS, and welfare, in favor of more enforced systems that don't reward laziness and punish hard work.

Papapimpin
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 528 Posts
Friday, August 10, 2007 10:54:53 PM
Glad to see positive feedback here. Understand the world you live in.

idiotkiller
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 162 Posts
Friday, August 10, 2007 10:51:41 PM
maybe you people aren't getting it. No politician would change their views after election because a company payed them to do it. That would destroy that politician and his political party. And even if some crazy house dcided to go mad with power, there's this little thing called checks and balances, something that prevents the president from being the king most people think he is.

Silver
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 24206 Posts
Friday, August 10, 2007 10:39:02 PM
On 8/10/2007 10:35:35 PM JihadAllah wrote: HOLY poo WHO POSTED THIS??? DIDN'T YOU KNOW THAT IT WOULD GET ALL THE COMMENTORS TO ARGUE???

But that is what makes IAB such a pleasure to read.

JihadAllah
Male, 13-17, Western US
 398 Posts
Friday, August 10, 2007 10:35:35 PM
HOLY poo WHO POSTED THIS??? DIDN'T YOU KNOW THAT IT WOULD GET ALL THE COMMENTORS TO ARGUE???

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