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Accidental Rape?

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Female, 18-29, Canada
 28 Posts
Saturday, December 09, 2006 1:34:12 AM
Well, what about 'consenting against your will'?
A friend of mine was raped a month after she turned 20. She was told by her rapist that if she didn't give consent, he'd kill her family (cliche, I know). So, she said yes, although she really didn't want to have sex with this guy, obviously. She went to the police with the details, but they never found the guy.

So what I'm saying, is if she says yes, but it isn't entirely in her personal interest to do so, is it still rape?

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 9622 Posts
Friday, May 05, 2006 2:41:58 AM
Also, remember, the people in this case were most likely drunk and excessivly tired--senses must have been altered.

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 9622 Posts
Friday, May 05, 2006 2:40:59 AM
Personally, I'll need actual solid proof to believe that. Also, perhaps it depends on how long/well you have known your partner--who knows how long the people in this case knew eachother.

Interesting point though, make sure to write back if you can deliver evidence though, an article or something.

Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 657 Posts
Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:59:42 PM
Correction for that last line. It's impossible to ACCIDENTALLY have sex with someone who isn't your partner.

Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 657 Posts
Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:57:58 PM
It's already been proven on an urban myth show that it's impossible to have sex with a stranger and think that they're your regular partner.
Did you ever hear the urban legend about the couple at the costume party. The husband wants to go to a masked costume party, but the wife wants to stay home. The wife changes mind and dresses up. Her husband hasn't see her costume. She sees what she think is her husband flirting with another girl. The wife decides test how faithful the husband is by sleeping with him at the party. They boink and the wife leaves upset thinking that her husband would cheat or has cheated in the past. Husband comes home and says he played cards all night and gave his costume to his brother. Wife realizes she slept with the brother.
To make an already long story short, they brought in experts to prove that it was impossible. Between rhythm, body type, scent, etc, it's impossible to have sexual intercourse with someone who isn't your partner.

Female, 13-17, Australia
 13 Posts
Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:57:29 AM
u peps that said lol U MAKE ME SIK..... i bet nobody that posted a coment on here other than me that has ever gottin raped. its the worst thing that can every happen 2 u and if u said lol then srry but u should die. fudgein ass holes

Female, 30-39, Midwest US
 33386 Posts
Thursday, May 04, 2006 7:54:54 AM
On 5/3/2006 11:18:09 PM bionicRod wrote: What in the world do you "chat" about during sex!?

What about "Oh god! F*ck me!"? That's talking; it's your voice. And I would certainly recognise my man's voice. Even if he were to groan, I'd know if it was a different voice.

Female, 18-29, Australia
 56 Posts
Thursday, May 04, 2006 4:55:24 AM

Unfortunately I'm not very good at finding information, but it appears that under NSW law (the relevant law in this case) if you consent to having sex with someone "under a mistaken belief as to the identity of the other person" then it doesn't count as consenting to sex, therefore the poor bloke in question could actually be convicted.

Female, 18-29, Australia
 56 Posts
Thursday, May 04, 2006 4:36:38 AM
bionicRod: Do you really want an answer?

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 9622 Posts
Thursday, May 04, 2006 3:27:45 AM
Overmann, consider this: If the man had not started the "touching," but rather had he simply lain in bed, and SHE initiated the sex, could she not still claim rape using the same validation because he was in her bed? My point is that we don't know what the article means when they say "initiating," we can only go off of the information given--which is very ambiguous and insubstantial. And...after that, it's all just he said, she said.

Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 1105 Posts
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 11:18:09 PM
What in the world do you "chat" about during sex!? Hey honey (a little to the left) how was your day? (oh yeah right there) Well I just can't believe Mandeesa was voted off of Idol (harder) and that bitch Paris was kept on (faster)! Can you (oh god i'm horny)! That's just weird lol but fun to type. (BTW no angry idol posts please, have only seen one episode this season so I don't really know what I'm talking about, just used it for context.)

Female, 18-29, Australia
 56 Posts
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:16:00 PM
I find it odd that the girl didn't notice it wasn't her bf, not just for style, but if she ran her hands through his hair etc. There are lots of subtleties about a persons feel, the way they smell, breathe, walk, the way they touch you. If you are intimate with someone, you recognise them. But if she was drunk, and thought her boyf was drunk, differences in style may have been attributed to his drunkeness, and she may not have noticed differences in smell etc due to her own drunkeness. Additionally, if my bf had passed out on the couch and I had gone to bed, I'd be happy for him to climb in bed if I thought he'd decided to join me. There are so many things to consider here, though I think the woman is pushing it with rape. Also I tend to chat with my bf while "at it", which is why I find it so damn odd that she didn't notice.
Having said all that, its my opinion that she can call rape if she wants, and its up to the 'justice' system to decide whats what.

Male, 18-29, Southern US
 3156 Posts
Tuesday, May 02, 2006 2:48:58 PM
Nico_86, I certainly didn't state that the rape charge could not go both ways. The man has every right to charge the woman with rape, and the case at that point would surely be thrown out. But in this case particular, with the woman pressing charges of rape against the man, the man is firstly at fault for not verifying the identity of his mate. When he initiated the sex (more on that in a moment), he set in motion the events that led to the misunderstanding.

It states in the article, rather ambiguously I might add, that Mr. Chappell initiated the sex. I would assume this to mean non-verbal, sexual touching. If he had done nothing and the woman started the sexual touching, she would have been initiating. Bah, I don't know, I lack experience in such things. Stop asking me sexual questions!

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 9622 Posts
Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:07:16 AM
One more thing, Overmann also stated that the rape charge can not go both ways on the grounds that the MAN initiated the intercourse. Just a thought...what is initiating? That he went into the bed? That he was the first to initiate sexual contact? But if she touches back...isnt that welcoming him (note that they are BOTH allegedly under false pretenses--he said, she said), if she shows no signs of refusing his touch...it takes two to fight.

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 9622 Posts
Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:02:29 AM
If we disregard the law, then from the information given, I would not feel comfortable (without a reasonable doubt) naming the guy guilty of rape. And if we were to consider the information Overmann gave regarding Criteria (5) of Califarnia's very specific law, which is very applicable to this case...then we would not be able to justly rule the guy guilty of rape because the article states that the perpetrator must "intentionally" mislead his victim. And there is no way to prove this...he said, she said.

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 946 Posts
Monday, May 01, 2006 12:54:14 AM
Whoah, iamnoname, chill out. This does not make her a whore, how is it really anyone's fault. In some way it was unspoken consent, yeah I know how that sounds. But really, no one should be to blame here. The man genuinely believed that this was the woman he went home with, and the woman genuinely believed that it was her boyfriend.

Male, 18-29, Western US
 18 Posts
Sunday, April 30, 2006 5:05:53 PM
She's just pissed that she can't tell the difference between here boyfriend and a strange guy at night. Whore.

Male, 13-17, Western US
 1418 Posts
Saturday, April 29, 2006 11:46:12 PM
Wow, so the phrase "I didn't mean to rape her" can actually be true.

Male, 13-17, Canada
 986 Posts
Saturday, April 29, 2006 7:09:43 PM
oh yeaaaaaa

Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 628 Posts
Saturday, April 29, 2006 6:46:31 PM
hmmm this is funny but damn u think they would know who it was doing that to thtm i mean really wtf stupid whores lol

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 231 Posts
Saturday, April 29, 2006 6:37:18 PM
it is all just a huge missunderstanding. lol

Male, 13-17, Europe
 242 Posts
Saturday, April 29, 2006 6:03:45 PM
Why the hell is he in court? She consented, and even initiated the sex!

Female, 18-29, Western US
 22 Posts
Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:34:00 AM
Well, I don't know if somebody said this, but...it sounded to me like the woman who was "raped" had only known her "boyfriend" for a short time, so maybe she didn't have the skills to identify him in the dark. BUT I still don't think he was within his rights...it sounds like a number of people here were at fault to some degree.

Female, 13-17, Europe
 94 Posts
Saturday, April 29, 2006 8:56:14 AM
dude doesn't know the lady or the flat mate OR the flat ... however, she said she thought he was her BOYFRIEND .. which suggests that she should've realised that the guy wasn't her BF ... unless they were practically identical. I mean, even in darkness, theres the sense of touch: texture/length of hair, body type, size of his d*ck?

the case should be dismissed on the grounds that all four of the people involved were idiots.

Male, 18-29, Canada
 315 Posts
Saturday, April 29, 2006 3:02:48 AM
i dont know what to think honestly, no clue at all

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