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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11246 Posts
Wednesday, March 5, 2014 7:19:25 PM
Something doesn't exist unless there is proof of it`s existence.


By that standard, nothing exists. The only thing that can be *proven* by strict standards is the correctness of pure maths (which does not apply to any application of any maths to reality).

[quote]Any shred of evidence that can`t be explained away will do.[/quote]

That`s not proof. That`s evidence. Different thing.

You`re citing an impossibly high standard (proof) and a very low standard (any shred of evidence for which there isn`t currently an explanation) at the same time and portraying them as the same thing. That doesn`t work.

Also, by your second standard numerous gods were "proved" to exist in the past and could be today with some more effort.

Lightning is a good example. It couldn`t be explained away in northern Europe ~2000 years ago. So it "proved" the existence of Thor, right?

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11246 Posts
Wednesday, March 5, 2014 7:10:24 PM
@Angilion,
"we do not have evidence that deities do not exist. We have an absence of evidence that they do."



Wrong person. I didn't write that. Although it is strictly true, I think it`s close to meaningless because it`s true of anything specifically created to be unfalsifiable.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, March 5, 2014 3:52:48 PM
@patch

we have more proof of unicorns then of God

Again, you're confusing `proof` and `evidence`.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, March 5, 2014 3:51:59 PM
@patch

Something doesn't exist unless there is proof of it`s existence

So... the Higgs Boson only recently came into existence?

Lacking proof of existence does not prove non-existence.

patchouly
Male, 40-49, Canada
 4524 Posts
Wednesday, March 5, 2014 6:51:49 AM
HumanAction:
"It's important to use the correct words lest you look arrogant. Firstly, there is no "proof" either way; we only have evidence."
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Actually, the falsities in the Bible, the very book that the entire religion is based on, are more than enough to use the word "proof". If the religion is based on the word of God and that word is interpreted from the Bible and the Bible is so contradictory and messed up that in no way is it correct, then the "Word of God" is not correct and you are basing your religion on muddled together group of stories that are wrong. The Bible, all on it`s own, proves that Christianity is incorrect. It doesn`t prove that there is no God, but you can safely say there is no Christian God.

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