Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:53:57 AM
Anti global warming crowd is happy to just sit on their asses doing nothing. The idea behind them is clear: god has made earth, earth is perfect thus man can have any effect on it what so ever (simplifying a lot). Then there's the horrible bunch: lets` put the planet on such a stress that God has to come out of hiding and commence rapture. Both make sure they profit from current situation and makes damn sure nothing will be done while we argue with them.
Sounds.. a lot like filibustering. This whole anti-global warming movement is USA conservative invention and it`s horrible, cruel and you will someday be hanged for that. If we still can live on this planet.
They don`t care, they GO TO HEAVEN SO SCREW THe EARTH!
Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:16:15 PM
Smagboy1 - I was suggesting that your anger over an attack of what you are calling logic (which is my understanding of science, theory, facts, research, data, etc) is akin to how some Christians react when their beliefs are attacked. It was supposed to be a comical whip about your passionate belief.
Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:20:38 PM
Unfortunately, these are common tricks in scientific fields and not just in climate science, but geology, volcanology, astronomy, marine biology, etc. There is so much prestige at risk, so many policies, and the almighty funding grants. Unfortunately, it means these trick are employed constantly. ...ok job just called I'm heading in early because of the snow storm, so this is where I have to end it. It was good discussing this with you, I`m sure we`ll do it again.
"I hope I`ve reciprocated."
You definitely have, kudos. Peace man have a good one.
Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:08:19 PM
"why hasn't this position gained more support?"
My personal guess is that it`s related to politics, you can just look at one of these message boards and see the hostility people have about these issues because they expand into everything else, energy policy, economic policy, business regulations, tons of different people credibilities.
For instance I`m not sure you`d accept a study from a oil company, just as I would not be satisfied with a government subsidised organisation. They tend to show what they want to show by manipulating the data. Both do it, skeptics and alarmists.
People can easily change how a temperature construct looks by adding or subtracting data sets. Take for instance, the Polar Urals and the Yamals.
Yamal and Polar Urals are both nearby treeline sites in northwest Siberia. The Yamal has a huge hockey stick, the largest stick in the IPCC AR4 Box. Here is the data with Polar Urals in black and the Yamal in red.