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Merciful God? [Pic]

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Merciful God? [Pic]. Being omnipresent must piss you off after a while.
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Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:16:48 AM

On a personal level, I would say that you seem to be a very cool guy with a particularly healthy religious view. I'm enjoying talking to you! Hopefully I`ll catch you the next time this topic rolls around.

Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:15:15 AM

"I would ask that you not even judge Christianity by my actions, but by the teachings of the Dying Messiah."

That's exactly what I try to do, to varying degrees of success. I judge you on how you act, and I judge the ideas of your religion on their merits alone.

Does this help to explain why I don`t see CrakrJak`s charitable deeds as being part of my judgement of Christianity as an idea, nor do I see Christianity the idea as being part of my judgement of your actions? Christianity is not a good idea because Christians are good people, and Christians are not good people because Christianity is a good idea.

I find too many problems seem to stem from being unable to disentangle the idea from the person. McGovern1981, for example, seems unable to recognise that Dawkins and atheism are seperate things, and that the merits and failings of one are largely unrelated to the other.

Male, 18-29, Southern US
 826 Posts
Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:22:45 PM

If judged on each of our actions, we will always be judged unworthy. But, for an outsider, I would ask that you not even judge Christianity by my actions, but by the teachings of the Dying Messiah.

I could never hold myself up as a good example, but I can tell you who I respect and who I try to emulate - and why.

So, I do completely agree that I cannot rest my laurels on the virtues of others. I should, though, be able to use them to explain what changes I am trying to make within my life - with the help of God.

Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:47:18 PM

"but by the same token we can all agree that WBC does not behave in actions that one would typically associate with the teachings of Christ."

Absolutely agreed. Can you agree that, if your detractors cannot use the WBC's actions in an argument against your beliefs, your supporters cannot use other Christian`s actions in support of your beliefs, and your beliefs and your actions must stand on their own merit alone?

"a) The verse is taken out of context in attempt to portray an inaccurate view on a Faith"

I absolutely agree. At no point have I expressed any support for that billboard and what it`s trying to do.

"b) On an overall level, the Christians of IAB are not bad apples?"

Also agreed. I wouldn`t hang around and debate with them if they weren`t generally pleasant to do this with.

Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:43:28 PM

"I don't recall ever being invited just like public places you can go there if you like and you can also be banned from there like this place."

It`s privately owned and run. That conversation is now ended, because you are just trying to distract with semantics now.

"I`d say most would disagree with you."

And they`re free to do so. I don`t speak for them and they don`t speak for me. I am telling you my own personal thoughts alone. Do you understand what I am saying?

"I`m still not seeing how this makes the evangelical atheist preaching here any better than fundy crap considering you`ve verified both are believes."

It doesn`t, and I haven`t said it does.

Can you not understand that "fundie" atheists do not speak for me? Dawkins is not the atheist pope. He speaks only for himself.

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