Monday, January 6, 2014 1:29:56 PM
DromEd - I agree that fining citizens on filling in ditches and such is stupid, but issues like that are not really a result of the global warming debate. Those are stupid measures put in place by the EPA to "Protect Wetlands", but in reality its just a stupid money grubbing scheme. I have a friend who used to contract for the EPA doing wetlands reconstruction, he quit after a year because he spent most of his time citing local citizens rather than actually protecting the environment.
As far as not seeing debris on public beaches, the county/city clean beaches on a daily or weekly basis, but even then if you take a brief stroll you can usually see crap floating in the surf, I know every time I've ever visited a beach I usually see crap floating in the water despite the local cleaning efforts. But I`m talking mainly about non inhabited and private beaches where such measures are not taken and debris is allowed to pile up.
Monday, January 6, 2014 9:37:24 AM
No reasonable person is against reasonable measures to curb unnecessary pollution. Yes that includes the majority of "the right". And yes, if left to their own devices business may tend to favor profit over all the "green" stuff. So nothing wrong with state and local agencies keeping an eye on things. But when Federal agencies are created that wield unprecedented power and enact regulations based on theories that haven't been properly tested. I and many other thinking individuals get angry. When the EPA fines a private land owner for filling in a ditch on his property citing a violation of regulations pertaining to "navigable waterways". It`s time to take a step back and re-think some things.
Your giant landfill example is an exaggeration of epic proportions and has no basis in fact.
And I enjoy the beaches along the Delaware, Virginia and North Carolina coast and have never in my life found them to be littered with trash.
Monday, January 6, 2014 6:50:02 AM
I completely agree with you madduck!! What the hell is wrong with making corporations clean up their act? What harm can come from instituting stricter regulations on waste and CO2 emissions? you guys act like the whole global warming argument is meant to undermine society or destroy life as we know it. The whole idea is that we need to stop polluting so much, if not to prevent global warming, then maybe to prevent our children and our children's children from living on a giant f**king landfill that used to be called Earth. I mean hell you already can`t go to a beach anywhere on the planet without finding human refuse on it. So why not make a change now so our grandchildren will be able to enjoy the beauty of nature as we do today?
Sunday, January 5, 2014 7:03:57 AM
who cares about the temperature outside when the land is too toxic to grow crops, the water is too polluted to drink, and the air makes you sick? Many days in summer we have toxic air advisories, i think global warming is to large a concept for tiny minds to grasp, and it takes away from the more obvious pollution caused by our current industry.
Sunday, January 5, 2014 3:52:30 AM
Christ on a stick--- what a load of rot. Confusing weather and climate for starters...cherry picking stuff for seconds. Why- why do this- we don't need to pollute as much as we do- we have alternatives but big corporations choose not to clean up their act- and in fact are now pressing for even MORE damage to be done by fracking.. what harm could it do to clean up the dam planet- it is not like we have anywhere else to go- and how much of a risk are we prepared to take?