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Colion Noir: Gun Control Vs Gun Safety

Different name? Same gun grabbers.

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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13519 Posts
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:31:11 AM
if I were a tyrant I would absolutely let my citizens have guns; it would comfortably fool them into thinking they had a hope in stopping me, and would distract them from the ACTUAL ways they can stop me.


You'd be the dumbest tyrant on the planet and I`d advise you to perfect a bullet proof skull.

[quote]which is exactly what you`re NOT doing because you`re so fixated on guns being your tool of defence, rather than all the less glamorous but WAY more effective tools, like education, political involvement, informed voting, rallying and what-have-you. [/quote]

The UK really shouldn`t one to criticize on that bud. Beside you haven`t kept track of the courts ruling on NSA stuff so far have you? Also you do all that and it still fail then what break out the vaseline? Seems to be your plan.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:33:12 AM
As I've said before on a number of occasions, if I were a tyrant I would absolutely let my citizens have guns; it would comfortably fool them into thinking they had a hope in stopping me, and would distract them from the ACTUAL ways they can stop me.

Again, I recognise there are ACTUAL benefits to gun ownership, and there is a debate to be had. But this is not a sensible reason.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:32:11 AM
@McGovern1981

"That wasn't the statement I was addressing it was. civilians with guns aren`t much of a challenge for them."

I was talking about the American military, which is substantially more powerful than all other militaries on the planet, to a degree that makes comparisons with other uprisings and revolutions pretty meaningless.

Look, if your government gets so tyrannical that the only way to stop them is to get into a shooting war, you`ve already lost. What you need to do is stop them before it gets to that stage...which is exactly what you`re NOT doing because you`re so fixated on guns being your tool of defence, rather than all the less glamorous but WAY more effective tools, like education, political involvement, informed voting, rallying and what-have-you.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13519 Posts
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:28:25 AM
@Musuko42
That wasn't the statement I was addressing it was.
civilians with guns aren`t much of a challenge for them.


Seem to be they can be. Yes War messes a place up imagine that!

[quote]So then why is there the need for the civilians to have rifles if there will be defecting military elements with howitzers and jets? [/quote]
Because a revolution has never worked like that and never will. Ya why would civilian need to defend themselves during something terrible like that...

[quote]You`re trying to argue a very poor reason to have guns, when there are PLENTY of better reasons.[/quote]

I`ve given you others before and you offer poor reasoning against them like the above. Following your logic people should just bend over and take it for "safety" if things ever get bad great reasoning there.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:14:38 AM
@5Cats

"So take the guns away from "the violent people" FIRST! Then try to disarm the lawful citizens, OK?"

That's what gun control is, from what I can see: background checks, etc, to determine if a person has a violent/criminal history. At least, it`s intention. Its implementation...like all implementations of an idea...probably doesn`t live up to the idea.

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