I can see plenty of safety concerns with someone who is drunk being in or near a car whilst in charge of the keys.
It's a CAR. It`s not a trivial machine. It`s not a hotel room. It`s not a handbag. It`s not a coat store. It`s a vehicle, capable of moving and damaging and killing. It should NOT be under the command of someone who is drunk, even if stationary, no matter how mildly inconvenient that might be.
It`s altogether too easy for a stationary car to become a moving one when you put a drunk person with the keys near it.
And it`s just as easy to leave the car at home or sort yourself out with a taxi or hotel room, or send a sober friend to fetch your coat, or make sure you have everything you need out of the car BEFORE you start your drinking.
And if you`re not responsible and organised enough to manage some simple prep like that, then you`re not responsible enough to be drinking in the first place.
Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:04:53 PM
The law says that you have to be sober when in charge of a motor vehicle. It's really not an unreasonable law. Cars are vehicles, after all, not mobile hotel rooms.
It is an unreasonable law because there are no public safety issues with someone asleep in the back seat of a car that isn`t moving.
But forget asleep, since you don`t like that. Try something like "getting a coat" or anything else. People quite often have something in their car that is useful for something.
Driving a car while drunk is dangerous to other people, so it`s reasonable to make it illegal.
Being in or near a stationary car while drunk is not dangerous to other people, so it isn`t reasonable to make it illegal.
Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:21:44 AM
Well, that thing was a waste of time. The guy was still so drunk that he didn't realize what it was all about. He thought it was a joke.
In Finland, you can get DUI sitting in drivers seat, with keys in the ignition, engine off. Dickish cops use that in rock festivals, someone goes to change the song in car radio and get`s license removed and a court date. Also gives out probable cause to search the vehicle (actually it doesn`t but denying the search is a probable cause..). Most cops just warn about it thou and most cops don`t use those loopholes either.