Saturday, November 30, 2013 7:39:56 AM
As an atheist, this story was pretty embarrassing to me. The Constitution states Congress shall not establish a Religion (as Jades just stated), but nowhere does it state that government cannot work with religious organizations or cannot have any interactions with them. There is nothing wrong with OCC as I'm pretty sure the kids receiving Christmas Gifts are already Christians. Early in US History a lot of government meetings occurred in churches. Schools are not government property but community and just like the roads, any community organization should be allowed to use it as long as they follow the rules applied to everybody.
Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:23:11 PM
@lauriloo But the School isn't Congress, they are not working to establish Christianity as a State Religion in other countries, and the First Amendment has no holding in other nations.
There is clearly no violation of the 1st Amendment here, but somehow the the American Humanist Association decided to fabricate the situation.
Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:30:29 PM
I think the argument is that a PUBLIC school is a government entity funded by tax dollars and by affiliating with an organization involved with establishing religion in another country they are violating the 1st amendment that government can't be involved with establishing a religion, especially choosing one particular religion over all others.
Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:52:25 AM
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Where in there does it say a school can't distribute toys through an agreement with a religious organization?
That said, I don`t agree with this type of proselytizing. I just don`t think it sends the right message.
I don`t think this agreement should be stopped but if the Atheists want to do something else then I`d have to say that`s ok as well, even if I may not agree with that message.
Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:07:42 AM
If Christmas was nothing but another ordinary day, as atheists claim it is, they wouldn't be persecuting Christians over it.
I`ve yet to see an atheist get upset over Chinese New Year, Beltane or Diwali, all of which are major religious holidays for different people.
Again, it makes no sense to persecute people over "nothing", normal people would just ignore it. But these assh*les hate God so much that they make monkeys of themselves and confirm their simian mentality by flinging sh|t at everything they hate.