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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24386 Posts
Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:15:58 AM
@SmagBoy1 and @lauriloo: You keep referring to Republican things, but have yet to actually SHOW ONE! Not ONE SINGLE THING!
That's because the ACA is 100% Obama and the Dems. It`s ALL them! They wrote it (NO Repubs allowed) voted for it (NO Repubs did) and amended it (NO Repub changes have been implemented). PERIOD.

@ListyPoos: Obama also ran against:
Rendition: He expanded it.
Drones: He tripled their use.
NSA: Expanded it.
Bush Tax Cuts: Re-signed them.
Increasing the Deficit: He DOUBLED it!

There`s more too. But somehow? These things just don`t seem to matter when Obama does them...

Bush`s Surge: Opposed vocally by MSM and "anti-war protests"
Obama`s Surge: *crickets*

& etc.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, November 11, 2013 9:17:05 AM
@SmagBoy

The problem is the massive and truly unprecedented obstructionism he's had to deal with.

In reality though, it hasn`t really been very effective - especially not in the case of Obamacare.

If you`re specifically talking about Obamacare (which I assume based on the previous comments), then the fact of the matter is that the GOP has not been able to impact it significantly. The delay tactics have all failed. The Democrats passed in through both Chambers of Congress without a single GOP vote.

The filibusters and shutdown were temporary delay tactics. At most, they merely slowed Obama down.

Specifically in regards to Obamacare, what has the GOP done to obstruct or alter Obama`s plans/hopes/dreams? Nothing. They didn`t get any compromises in Obamacare because the Dems didn`t need to compromise to pass the bill.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4156 Posts
Monday, November 11, 2013 5:26:48 AM
Listypoos, that's fine. The problem is the massive and truly unprecedented obstructionism he`s had to deal with. You can intend to do all sorts of things, but when the other party stonewalls you at every turn, literally (and provably) makes it their mission to ensure that you`re a one-term president, it`s kind of tough to meet your promises.

So, while I agree that there have been some problems with his policies, and it`s important that he take responsibility for his shortcomings, laying the blame so squarely on him really *is* FOXNews territory, and terribly ignorant of the nuance happening here.

Listypoos
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2566 Posts
Monday, November 11, 2013 12:38:50 AM
"Where do you get your information? Sounds like Fox News or one of their many associated entities, which is unfortunate."

No, Fox news is a US news channel, and one aimed at viewers with a right of centre political bias...and as I stated in my opening sentence about not having to be a republican to not think he's honest I thought I`d made it clear that my politics aren`t to the right...they`re centre and if it was just a two party system like yours I`d vote Democrat if anything. Of course I`ve heard of fox news and no doubt if I bothered to look around on the sat channels I`m sure I`d find it but mainly I get my news from the Independent newspaper and either the BBC news website or the reuters one.


Lauriloo, two quick questions.... did Obama as part of his first election campaign promise to close Guantanamo bay holding camp immediately upon election? Is it now closed?

lauriloo
Female, 40-49, Midwest US
 1805 Posts
Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:21:02 PM
"Nothing is Obama's fault...just ask him. He will even say that he didn`t say what he clearly said on video...works great when the media is on your side"

Did you see the interview Obama did with Chuck Todd regarding this? The entire thing, not selected snippets on Fox News.

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