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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26662 Posts
Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:33:58 PM
VV Thanks @broizfam! We've been TRYING to talk some sense into certain people about how RUDE that is, perhaps he, (er they?) will listen to a `neutral voice`?

broizfam
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 3836 Posts
Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:25:13 PM
"Does NOBODY ELSE find it hilarious that the 2 people most vocally opposed to healthcare reform and the government getting involved are two guys that live off of government provided healthcare?"

Understand that I'm just about completely the opposite, politically speaking at least, of the "two guys" referred to, here. The comment, however, is really kind of unfair. The fact that someone is in a position where he requires government assistance doesn`t mean he can`t view a government assistance law critically and find it lacking or even completely inappropriate.
Personally, I`m not fond of the idea of government involvement in healthcare since it seems to be REALLY BAD at that kind of thing. Insurance companies really suck at it badly enough already, without adding government input. Again, I don`t agree with their political view of the law but I certainly feel they have the right to voice their opinions regardless of their need for similar support.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26662 Posts
Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:15:49 PM
@Musuko42: I grow weary of constantly looking up EASY TO FIND things for my nay-sayers.

10X the RATE is ghod-awful! There's no other way of looking at it. It might be 20X, I forget, but it`s absolutely outrageous. "Small numbers" that is "cold comfort" to those who die in British Hospitals...

I support ACTUAL Universal Healthcare. It doesn`t exist anywhere, but some nations come close!

ObamaCare is the OPPOSITE! It is already making things MUCH worse, and it hasn`t even started yet!!!

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:21:27 AM
@5Cats.

PS: You STILL didn't actually answer my question: yes or no, do you support the idea of universal healthcare?

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:20:47 AM
@5Cats

"But your system is falling to pieces! "Preventable Deaths" in hospitals 10X the rate of the USA? ZOMG!"

Can you supply a source for that, please, because that's a very bold statement.

Also, do you have the raw numbers? Ten times a tiny number is still a tiny number. Ten times a large number is greater cause for concern. Saying something is ten times worse than something else is meaningless without knowing the numbers.

For example, if your chance of a preventable death is 1 in 10 million in the US, and 1 in 1 million here, it`s not really a threat to lose too much sleep over.

""Universal Healthcare" is BLOODY expensive! It`s one OR the other: "open to all" OR "affordable"."

How can you say our universal healthcare system is expensive when we pay a lot less per head than America does in their system? Our system is proven cheaper than their approach.

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