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freeman beats the taxman

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Hits: 6773 | Favorites: 0 | Emailed: 0 | Rating: 2.5 | Category: News & Politics | Date: 09/23/2013
 
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10542 Posts
Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:04:57 PM
Over here, local government is still government. So they have a limited authority to levy local taxes. National government still has overall control, but there's a degree of decentralisation.

Council tax is based on the market value of your property, so it`s a form of property tax. You can appeal on various grounds, of course.

Our systems aren`t all that different (unsurprisingly). It seems like there`s some difference in the ways in which authority is decentralised, but there`s taxation for local services in both our countries.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16155 Posts
Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:23:09 AM
Angilion: We have property taxes and even city parking licenses for cars, even nonsense fines and fees that are actually stealth taxes. But those are all from government.

There are some gated communities that have HLAs that are private contracts, but you have to sign and agree to those terms ahead of time or not move in there.

But as far as I know, a city council here can't just raise property taxes on their own. They can and do raise fees, like dog licenses and parking stickers, but property taxes are assessed by the state and county assessors. And their assessments can be appealed on several grounds.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10542 Posts
Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:12:48 PM
Maybe we should give them the medieval anachronism they claim to hold so dear and just hang them. There was a hell of a lot of hanging going on in late medieval England and the authorities back then really didn't like people refusing to pay their taxes. You could be hanged for stealing a shilling, which was little more than a week`s pay for a low-end job.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10542 Posts
Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:02:19 PM
Since when can a private entity force people to pay taxes? I mean seriously England, that's really f*cked up.


It would be if it was true, but it isn`t.

Council tax is paid to local councils. It`s split between police, fire brigade, town/city council and county council (for other stuff paid for by taxes). Maybe in rural areas there isn`t a town/city part, I don`t know.

You probably have something similar over there. I vaguely recall reading something about city taxes in the USA.

The freemen people are just talking rubbish. They believe (or pretend to believe) that local councils are private businesses because they didn`t exist in their current form in 1215. It doesn`t really make sense - England had local authorities and local taxes in 1215 anyway.

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 3718 Posts
Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:12:24 AM
Freeman? Bloody freeloader more like.

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