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Conspiracy & Religion

How conspiracy and religion are similar

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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26157 Posts
Tuesday, September 3, 2013 6:47:41 PM
The premise was that religious people are more prone to believing in things without or with little evidence.

@jinxjinx34: Thanks for the answer! You are polite & articulate, a rare combination at IAB! It's not like I AM those things! Lolz!

THAT`S IT! That -is- the "conspiracy" he`s supporting: the (false) belief that religious people are "gullible" & believe anything!

The MAIN difference is? Non-R people believe DIFFERENT conspiracies than -R people! So those aren`t "conspiracies" in their (non-R) minds! But those stupid -R people believe OTHER stuff!

I`ll try to check back.

I`ll point out that a HUGE % of Democrats believe the "Bush caused 9/11" conspiracy... anything over 10% is huge in my books. (iirc it`s 43%?)

And that 3/4 of Americans DO NOT believe the "Warren Report" on JFK...

jinxjinx34
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 175 Posts
Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:51:00 PM
@5Cats- I know that the term "religion" is broad. I asked which definition you, in particular, used to determine that "He is... in fact... supporting... a conspiracy theory!!!" Also, what conspiracy theory is he supporting?

Claiming to know "TONS of atheists who believe the most OUTLANDISH conspiracy theories!" does nothing to support your claim. Neither does the fact that some of these theories may be true or partially true. The premise was that religious people are more prone to believing in things without or with little evidence. NOT that they are the only people who do. He merely demonstrates how religious belief and belief in conspiracy are similar. Can you construct an argument to refute him? Simply saying that he is supporting some sort of conspiracy as a means to discredit the content is weak, especially when you cannot support your your own claim.

liabach
Male, 40-49, Western US
 1623 Posts
Monday, September 2, 2013 8:29:01 PM
Oh, I thought that religion was more like the scientific method... Except that you just give up after establishing the hypothesis.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26157 Posts
Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:58:24 PM
@jinxjinx34: I know TONS of atheists who believe the most OUTLANDISH conspiracy theories!

"Religion" is a very broad term! Those who say "I'm Christian" but haven`t attended a Church in 10 years? Or ACTED like a Christian for that long either? Still get lumped in with "The Devout".

"Conspiracy Theory" is also a broad term! And guess what? SOME ARE TRUE!
Until they are "disproven" which is BLOODY difficult? It`s not fair to call them wrong at all.

Operation Blue Book: Now admitted to be EXACTLY what "Conspiracy KOOKS" claimed: fake! NOT an effort to "find evidence of UFOs" but in fact an effort to DISCREDIT and cover-up.

WHO falsely believed in a "conspiracy"? Those who believed the US Gov`t? Or those who doubted?

The "level of belief" is different as well...

jinxjinx34
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 175 Posts
Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:28:36 AM
@5Cats- "He is... in fact... supporting... a conspiracy theory!!!

Might be funny if it wasn't so ironic.

"Religious people are MORE PRONE to believing conspiracy theories"?
NOPE! Unless you use a VERY VAGUE definition of both religion and/or conspiracy..."

What definitions of "religion" and "conspiracy" are YOU using? Also, what conspiracy theory is he supporting? Is it really that hard to see the fact that the same belief mechanisms that allow us to have strong convictions in religious faith are the same that allow us to subscribe to fantastic occurences in other aspects of our lives?

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