Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:49:07 PM
The EDL and the UKIP are a reaction to a disenfranchisement of the votership, the EDL, the white working class vote in industrial towns, the UKIP mainly Middle England Tory voters. Both fall quite right of centre and have a common theme of Euro scepticism and immigration. I accept there are significant differences between the two movements, but the advertisement in the original post will appeal to followers of both - it's a cheap Tory vote winner. The Tory backbenchers are crapping themselves in reaction to UKIP`s rise.
You misinterpret my comments, I don`t say that invasion and immigration are necessarily synonomous, and apologies if this was a poor choice of words. However, the thrust of my argument is that this island has, since the year dot, had a history of mixing races and people taking home here from around the world. I dispute the notion that there has ever been a a static Britain with the `good old days`, they never actually existed. We need to be tolerant not less.
You are clearly unaware of history, of the current state of immigration into the UK or of the aims of EDL and UKIP or of the differences between the two.
Until you know at least a little about the topic you comment on, might I suggest you will look less of an idiot if you refrain from posting?
Invasion and immigration are not synonymous. Frankly though you are making a point the EDL would not dare if you are likening the immigration from the Islamic world to an invasion by Saxons and Norse.
However the idiocy of your comments is so broad as to be difficult to address in 900-some characters allowed here.
A little start though: UKIP is about the EU. Immigration is a minor part of that, but many Euro sceptics are, like me, married to immigrants. EDL is against Islamic fascism and violence. It is not about immigration per se, just the behaviour of immigrants when they are here (i.e. that they should be civilised).
Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:45:13 AM
I understand the term 'marxist propaganda` perfectly thank you. But fail to see how it is in any way relevant to this topic?
Britain HAS always been a nation of immigrants. Everything from the earliest `Celtic` settlers (in various waves), through to the Saxon invasions, Norman invasion, Viking invasions, etc. Please elucidate where my `intellectual superiors` have duped me on this one?
I don`t deny that there has been greater levels of immigration in the past few decades than in recent history, but in part this was to overcome a labour shortage after WW2 and kept Britain`s economy going. The level of hatred drummed up for political gain by the likes of the EDL and UKIP and papers such as the Daily Mail is frankly disgraceful. THAT is what the original post is all about.
Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:58:53 AM
mrRugby, you seem unable to form an counter-argument to my previous post. You seem to be willfully ignoring the facts put to you and feign a lack of understanding with regard to my use of 'marxist propaganda` (these two words can be found in all dictionaries if you genuinely have difficulty understanding). for someone that doesn`t know what it is you sure display signs of its influence.
You continue to repeat your assertion about Britain always being a nation of immigrants. Where did you learn this? was it through your own research or is it something that is always said by people you consider to be intellectually superior.
how does it relate to mass immigration? is it a reasonable justification? 5% of the current population arrived in the last 10 years. Do you believe this has always been the case?
You remind me of the sheep in `animal farm` mindlessly repeating the slogans thought up by the pigs and conditioned to chant them to disrupt and drown out a