Saturday, August 3, 2013 7:28:02 AM
He knew even then that an immoral or nonreligious group of people would try and tear apart the constitution. He also knew very religious people would also try to do the same thing. Considering they've been the ones who`ve consistently held a majority since its inception they`ve done just that. They mandated licenses for marriage, put restrictions on alcohol and drugs. Even pushed for welfare programs that crowd out private charitable investments (yes even progressives were religious).
Friday, August 2, 2013 1:21:43 PM
SmagBoy1: There is no misinterpretation in his quote. He knew even then that an immoral or nonreligious group of people would try and tear apart the constitution. Which is exactly what is being attempted these days.
Before 1900, the church and the school house were usually the same building. Schools were not ran by the government, so there was no "separation of church and state" argument about schools. The more the government digs it's grubby hands into society the more separation there will be.
That is why Obamacare is a power grab and if it`s not stopped there will cease to be any religious affiliated hospitals.
Friday, August 2, 2013 10:17:06 AM
CrakrJack, I think you're great, man, but please stop misquoting/misinterpreting our Founding Fathers. It`s a huge disservice to our history and heritage. Notice that Adams says moral *and* religious. He was a very intelligent man. He could have just said "religious" (which, even still, would have included Muslims, Jews and Christians), but he also used the word "and" to separate the ideas. Our Founders were almost all Deists. And, even those who weren`t understood the important of separation of church and state. It`s the whole reason the Pilgrims left England, after all.
Friday, August 2, 2013 7:22:40 AM
"would have to prove they have sort of decent moral upbringing"
Exactly how would one PROVE that? It's obvious that SAYING you`re religious has absolutely no correlation to how moral one is. I would argue that, although I`m an atheist, I`m much more moral than the average person who claims to be religious. Morality has very little to do with religion. What YOU have to do is pay attention to the person running and their history, not just vote for them because they support your preferred party or pet cause.