Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:29:28 AM
It's not really just a matter of semantics tho is it? It`s a matter of definition. To make an analogy, Jesus comes to earth and is welcomed by the Christians, the Agnostics (which in this Christian scenerio could also include people of different religious faiths) are hesitant to believe and ask him to perform several miracles. The Atheists however, don`t believe no matter how many "parlour tricks" he performs.
And to say that whether a person believes in God is not always a simple yes or no answer. What if I believe that god THINKS he is God....
Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:20:20 PM
@5Cats: I see, you're just trolling. @ggolbez: Um, NOT! I`m dead serious! A Christian (Muslims and Jews too for that matter) SEES GOD everywhere! For them? The "proof" is all around! So in MY example: The Christian (Muslim or Jew works too) is explaining that science is incomplete without God. Of course the Atheist utterly rejects this. NOTE: The puzzle (in my example) CANNOT ever be completed! That would amount to absolute proof which negates "faith". IMHO...
[quote]To say you`re an agnostic means that you don`t believe in a god but you are open to the possibility, which in turn means you don`t believe in a god and are thus an atheist.[/quote] ACK! Where were you when I was trying to convince various IABers of that very fact? You`re correct: uncertainty is NOT belief: therefor "agnostics" are the same as Atheists (for all intents and purposes).
Saturday, May 25, 2013 8:24:44 PM
Nope, you're all wrong.
The red speech bubble bunny is all of you, arguing about what analogy this is supposed to represent; whereas I`m the blue speech bubble bunny knowing that this is just a series of pictures about bunnies putting together a puzzle.
Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:47:13 PM
@jaysingrimm: To me that's an argument of semantics. To ask "Do you believe in a God" is a yes/no answer. If yes, then you`re a believer. If no, then you`re an atheist. To say you`re an agnostic means that you don`t believe in a god but you are open to the possibility, which in turn means you don`t believe in a god and are thus an atheist. Just my opinion, however, and it is what based my original statement.
Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:38:54 PM
@5Cats: I see, you're just trolling. And here I thought that internet meme died out. Regardless, you`re using a rhetorical fallacy known as "suppressed evidence". You are stating that science can not change with evidence, when it can. But keep on trolling, I know to ignore you now.