Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:32:04 PM
Just post any contradictory data to global warming. Um, @Canoas? Did you happen to LOOK AT the origional post? It was warmer before humans even existed! So it is factually possible for the Earth to "Globally Warm" without human "help". Ok? You get it? Good.
Not dead yet @davymid! Lolz!
Nicely said @OldOllie! Those 3 points are spot-on! The ONE thing which could provide power without CO2 is Nuclear. Not hydro-, not wind- not solar-. Well, "Tidal power" would be good, without CO2, but #1 only close to a sea coast. #2 not every coastal area could be used and #3 it's still "intemittant" and requires fossile fueled back-up!
Just like wind and solar, every GigW of it requires a GigW of FF power too! Explain the logic behind THAT @davymid?
Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:06:15 PM
OK, thanks Ollie for the honest answer and taking the time to post back. Like I said, no ambush here on my part.
We'll take the "hide the decline" discussion on some future thread (this one`s dead), but I just wanted to make sure I wasn`t discussing science with some illiterate moonbat (for example, denying the scientific fact of Evolution). Just wanted to understand what I`m debating with.
See you on the next debate fella, and I`ll listen to what you have to say.
Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:42:52 PM
But seriously, I'd like to ask, not loaded: Do you believe in evolution but not AGW? No ambush, I swear. In short, yes. Oh, I`m sure human activity contributes somewhat to global warming, but not nearly as much, say, as walking on a treadmill contributes to heating my house.
To buy into the entire global warming orthodoxy, All of this must be true.
1) The earth is warming. Perhaps, but the evidence is inconclusive, and we know for a fact that much of it has been completely fabricated. (Can you think of ANY context in which "hide the decline" can mean ANYTHING except "falsify the data?")
2) It`s being caused by human activity. The evidence here is even weaker. If you plot temperature and CO2 concentrations, it appears that CO2 levels FOLLOW temperature, not the other way around. This has been true for eons. Therefore, there is no causal relationship.
Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:39:58 PM
3) It is actually possible to stop or even reduce global warming by driving hybrid cars, switching to CFL light bulbs, and burning our food supply. This is where the global warming scam really falls apart. The prescriptions to fight global warming would do FAR more damage to the environment and cause FAR MORE human suffering than simply adapting to a warmer climate. Some estimates have put the cost of global warming mitigation at $100 TRILLION per degree Celsius.
And yet the one thing that would do 10 times more to reduce CO2 emissions than all the other remedies put together is reviles and shunned. I'm speaking, of course, of nuclear power. That should tell you all you need to know right there. Global warming isn`t about saving the earth. It`s about bossing people around and taking their stuff, i.e., liberalism.
Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:37:10 PM
@OldOllie Provide proof instead of retarded claims. Anyone can make those claims, and lots of idiots like you actually do, but no one can prove it. Why? Because they're not true.
Just post any contradictory data to global warming. Just do it. You could finish this argument in a heartbeat just by posting such information, but you haven`t. And I ask the same question as before, why haven`t you? The answer is quite simply really, it`s because no such data exists. Just look at 5cats for a second, he was so happy that someone finally found proof against global warming.. only to find out he`s an idiot who can`t even read a simple graphic. Again, good luck finding it, I`m waiting for the laughs.