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What`s In President Obamas Gun Control Package?

Obama announced a $500 million package from suggestions put forth by VP Joe Biden`s task force on gun control. Read up!

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What`s In President Obamas Gun Control Package?. Obama announced a $500 million package from suggestions put forth by VP Joe Biden`s task force on gun control. Read up!
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VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Friday, January 18, 2013 9:47:14 AM
yup, nothing wrong with thinking how we educate people on a matter and generally can improve as a whole, but a lot of shouting going on without thought in it is going around also. my arguments where more aimed at that since emotional overreaction based on what the TV and paper is flashing doesn't lead to the best lines of thinking, or any worthwhile solutions.

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Friday, January 18, 2013 9:39:23 AM
american news, media and politics, exactly. too much flag waving in all it's senses.

and yes, it`s possible, but car searches take time, i had some training in that and can say you either do a quick search and miss everything, or practically take apart the car and end up with a 10km chain of traffic and loads of unhappy people, which in turn leads to more protests, more whining, plus cost overruns, political debates that go nowhere and take years, so on. it basically ends up turning everything into american airports. yuck.
also our politicians are too busy blasting all our cash on beating dead horses and trying to unruin other countries that they themselves helped economically ruin, i`d rather it goes into fixing the busted social issues and poverty, not to mention just competant guards to keep people from getting beaten up in the subways and so on constantly. the sort of stuff we got rid of previously.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2829 Posts
Friday, January 18, 2013 9:33:26 AM
@VikingGuy

"but people fall through the cracks or get it by other means anyways, in the end it's just a irreparable flaw in any system."

Not contesting that. But there`s no reason not to make the cracks as tight as we can.

People still crash cars, but we don`t abolish the driving test because of that. If lots of people were crashing, we`d put serious thought into making the test tougher.

The same thinking is going on regarding guns in America right now. And rightfully so.

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Friday, January 18, 2013 9:29:45 AM
yup, background checks and police record check, it's fully reasonable. i wouldn`t sell a weapon to someone with a criminal background either, or to some random junkie or someone with a history of mental illness. but people fall through the cracks or get it by other means anyways, in the end it`s just a irreparable flaw in any system.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2829 Posts
Friday, January 18, 2013 9:29:41 AM
@VikingGuy

Surely borders can be secured without turning things into a totalitarian nightmare.

"checkpoints can't monitor every passing vehicle or search it."

They can if you spend enough to do that. It doesn`t sound impossible to me. Expensive as all hell, yes, but not impossible.

The wilderness is harder, sure. But technology is a pretty grand thing. I would imagine you can do a whole lot of monitoring with all sorts of methods.

Would there be quite so much cigarette smuggling if people knew that the country`s government had spent a LOT of money and made it policy that every single vehicle gets a search at the border?

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