Monday, November 19, 2012 1:54:29 AM
Damn, 5Rats, I was trying to get off this subject, but you just had to spout more crap, didn't you?
#1 Only a small portion of the land is "disputed" (the West Bank) and that is just by the Israelis themselves. The UN, the EU, the ICoJ all consider it to be OCCUPIED territory. Even the Israeli High Court of Justice says the West Bank is held under "belligerent occupation."
#2 Who invaded Israel in 1967? Citations please! We all know the 6-Day War was a PREEMPTIVE war, those lands were not `Liberated`. What a crock!
#3 Oslo I or Oslo II? And please cite your source for that 90%+ claim. We all know that is one of those "pulled from your ass" statistics. The Oslo accords were destined for failure from the start. Though the initial agreements made by both sides were encouraging, the deal depended on a gradual buildup of trust, but there were no mechanisms for arbitration or correction of disputes. Both sides broke their promises.
Saturday, November 17, 2012 1:22:16 PM
and land acquired through peaceful negotiation and democratic process (the UN). And again @chalket, I point out that the PLO Refused the peaceful deal & continued it's WAR on Israel. Israel SIGNED and passed Oslo! All the PLO had to do was stop attacking! Now it doesn`t matter since the other side refused, it no longer applies to Israel, eh?
I used to LAUGH when "pro-PLO-nicks" used to accuse the IDF of "violation of the Oslo Accord". MSM reporters, the CBC, local peace-activists, lefites of various stripes...
Saturday, November 17, 2012 1:09:52 PM
Every bit of land is accounted for and (ostensibly) owned and controlled by one internationally-recognized country or another. @chalket: This is true! I say this ALL the time! It is vital to understand this in the I/P conflict. [quote]And that was true in 1967 when Israel appropriated all that extra territory.[/quote] This is FALSE: Here's why: #1 The land is "disputed" not "occupied". There`s a HUGE legal difference! Get the terms right! #2 Israel was INVADED in 1967, those lands were captured by ARABS and then `Liberated` by Israel! Again it`s a world of difference! #3 The Oslo accord GAVE Palestinians 90%+ of everything they wanted, on a silver platter! They refused it (since it didn`t include the destruction of Israel...)
They have no one to blame but themselves. Or other Arabs/Muslims...
Ah, wonderful. I accept your admission of defeat. I know I've critized the contents of your message relentlessly, however, I must give you credit for how often you said it. Your twisted view of reality is a delight to pull apart.
I admit I did laugh out loud at your "clearly outmatched" bravado though! Wonderful; I was concerned that you had begun to take it poorly. Not you though @chalket! You certainly took this beating like a champ.