Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:16:56 PM
You failed. The fact that you failed doesn't mean the next candidate won`t fail. However, he has much more experience in job creation, and the economy in general. More experience, and not failing as you have. OVERSEAS... fail. Why? You can try IAB... logic.
Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:53:23 AM
History Lesson Time! Barack's Order Features prominent mention of the Geneva Convention, which is good. However, the creation of Gitmo is because of the GC! Soldiers in uniform have GC rights, but those NOT in unifrom have... none! It used to be spys, scouts and partisans who were non-uniformed soldiers, but now it`s "terrorists" who fill that catagory.
If you capture a non-U soldier, you can shoot him on the spot! Or "question him" (you`re not supposed to use torture, but beatings are OK) and THEN shoot him!
The US Army had to come up with a plan to keep captured non-U alive, (the notion of Americans shooting POWs is a no-go!) but still be able to interrogate them.
Gitmo is an elegant solution! It`s worked just fine! THAT is why Obama has chosen to keep it open.
Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:43:49 AM
@chalket: I do recall an order to "study the removal" which seems to be what you've linked. That`s fine.
However it`s NOT the Republicans who "stopped BHO" in that case, it`s the DEMOCRATS who told him "sorry Mr.Prez but closing Gitmo isn`t prudent!"
My points remain: #1 No Republican stopped BHO from closing Gitmo (although they OBVIOUSLY rejected the idea, duh! That`s their JOB as opposition!) #2 BHO`s own people refused to close it. #3 Rather than admit the truth, Obama (and his people) spread LIES to cover his butt on the subject.
A REAL PotUS would say: The BucK Stops Here! Obama Says: The evil Republicans MADE ME do it!
He promised to close it in YEAR ONE and did not. It`s a fact!~ no excuses can change that.
Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:35:54 AM
#10 I honestly don't know if Obama said 2011, nor do I care really. Still it`s a sure sign of his LACK of knowledge and experience, eh?
#11 "It`s not the best solution" = Opposed it! And he (and the rest of the Democrats) DID oppose it! Called Gen "Betray-Us" (remember that?) a murderer for supporting such a plan! Later Obama... oreder a Surge in Afghanistan! Led by... General Petraeus! Suddenly the Democrats LOVE this guy! So it`s not so bad that Obama did what his party told him, but he`s still responsible for his words and actions! #12 Oh most certainly: Obama claimed 100% of the credit for withdrawl in Iraq!~ Bush was never mentioned, and the MSM were happy to comply!
I thanks you for your reasoned, polite discussion! So rare these days on IAB... feel free to continue to disagree, I don`t mind!
Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:21:18 AM
2) you side-stepped my challenge about super-majorities. go home, eh? @jtreb: Side stepped what? I answered it up, down AND sideways! Please explain what you've failed to grasp.
@Tekinette: There`s links provided to get the "full story", easy-peasy! Putting the "full story" on EVERY point would make the list 5 miles long!!! 6 & 7: so it`s true, good. #8: "minus the torture" LMAO! No really, my ass just fell off because I laughed AT YOU so hard! Just what ARE they doing to prisoners on those "black ships" in international waters? Hummm? Playing Parcheesi? #9 Obama kept his promise, but of course he followed the EXACT timeline Bush had ordered! So in FACT it was Bush how "ended the war in Iraq" and not Obama (although it happed while he was PotUS...) #10 - when the chatacter counter gets near 900? Chances are it`s time to post reply (lolz!)