Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:28:07 AM
Also, MILLIONS of Muslims? What did these millions do? Protest? That's fine, so what? They should have freedom of speech and assembly too. Kill the ambassador? Not acceptable, but that wasn`t millions, was it? That was a handful. Attack embassies? Again, not acceptable, but again, not millions. If millions were attacking embassies there would be a lot more deaths than the few hundred total across all countries.
This is exactly what I mean - the actions of a few being ascribed to millions. OK for Muslim terrorists, not OK for the WBC.
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:11:00 AM
Y'all have NO problem equating WBC with "all Christians" BUT when millions of Muslims do something? Y`all chant: They don`t represent ALL Muslims!
Not the case. I`m not saying WBC represent all Christians, I`m saying there are plenty of psychos on the fringes of your religion, just as there are plenty of psychos on the fringes of Islam (or indeed any religion).
It`s a direct response to when Christians describe Islam as a violent, hateful religion because of the actions of terrorists. If we did the same looking at WBC, you (rightly) point out that they don`t represent every Christian. But some of you seem incapable of applying the same logic to Islam.
I`m not defending Islam, I`m treating both religions the same, applying exactly the same logic and arguments to each.
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:04:54 AM
their behavior is antithetical to being a Christian So is the behaviour of plenty of Christians. Ted Haggard f*cked a male prostitute repeatedly, but now he's back preaching. Is he not a Christian because of that? I thought everyone `sinned`. How much do you have to do it before you`re no longer Christian?
[quote]Jesus never said, "Condemn your enemies"[/quote] Then why does any Christian speak out about topics like gay marriage and condemn it as sinful?
Also, the WBC would probably respond with lines like: Matthew 10:34 - "I came not to send peace, but a sword" Luke 22:36 - "he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one" Matthew 28:19 - "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them ..."
Lev 19:17 - "thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him" (although they obviously ignore the first part of this verse)
Monday, September 17, 2012 8:33:23 AM
The dictators being atheist has nothing to do with their policies and genocides. They just happen to be atheist. THIS? From a guy who just accused others of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy? Really @kummi90 really?
@almightybob and @davymid: What "we" are saying is: Y'all have NO problem equating WBC with "all Christians" BUT when millions of Muslims do something? Y`all chant: They don`t represent ALL Muslims! K? I`ve used "extreme" examples to illustrate what "you" (the IAB Atheist crew) are consistantly doing.