Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:16:46 AM
@elkingo: (addendum to "continued 2") To clarify, I was speaking of the stuff mentioned in the video clips.
The end of the video is one person's response to theists who play the persecution card, not all theists or Christians. That is the only negative bit and it is clearly directed at theists in the US, and only at those theists described in the video that act persecuted despite ACTUAL persecution of atheists at their hands.
Unless you think ALL theist or Christians feel persecuted (which is absurd), then it was not directed at all of them.
Tuesday, September 11, 2012 11:20:14 PM
elkingo: (continued 4) "I don't know why they rejected the message."
A statement only possible if you didn`t actually read the article I linked to.
Straight from the article, which quotes the company that rejected it saying, "COLTS does not accept ads which could be deemed controversial or otherwise spark public debate." It seems pretty clear to me that "offensive" is basically the right word here, which you denied.
Your other speculations were also wrong and pointless if you`d read the article.
angilion: "How on Earth could `You KNOW there is NO GOD!` be about Christians only? It explicitly refers to atheists."
elkingo: "My point exactly!"
No, that`s the OPPOSITE of your point when you said, "How is it not targeted towards religious people?"
This is what I mean about you shifting your arguments.
Tuesday, September 11, 2012 11:04:41 PM
elkingo: (continued 3) "I don't know the full story there though, and can only assume. Perhaps the bus owners are Jewish and don`t want to spread the message? I don`t really know what it was rejected, but it is illogical to assume that it was based on hatred."
There would be no need to "assume" if you had actually read the article I linked to. The company had run messages for various religions before. It also specifically listed the policy by which it rejected the "Atheist" ad. No, the atheists weren`t attempting to provoke anyone, they were attempting to NOT provoke anyone. And stop assuming every atheist organization is anti-theist!!! Seriously. Read the article.
Also, "hatred" is your word, not mine. I`d say "bigotry" is more appropriate. (And WTF would being Jewish have to do with it???)
I don`t know why you wallow in ignorance of a subject when the information has been provided to you.
Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:47:49 PM
elkingo: (continued 2) "Maybe there is truth in that, but it doesn't justify attacking Christians all across the nation; because all Christians don`t attack the beliefs of others."
You DO realize that your own statements made it look like you were attacking ALL atheist causes because of the actions of a few groups, right?
Furthermore, it certainly DOES justify criticizing the Christians that DO persecute atheists.
But seriously, name one part of the video that CLEARLY attacks "Christians all across the nation"?
Telling atheists that they aren`t alone? Saying that atheists can do good without religion? Asking people to consider the POSSIBILITY of living without religion? Pointing out examples of hateful bigotry against atheists?
I`m sorry, but all of the hate I see in the video are knee-jerk reactions to atheist, not towards theists.
Check the video again and you`ll see you`re just wrong.