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Perpetual Motion Machines Of The Past

Hypothetical, but we can dream....

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Hits: 8880 | Favorites: 11 | Emailed: 0 | Rating: 3.2 | Category: Science | Date: 09/02/2012
 
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jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2496 Posts
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:57:27 AM
@Angilion: whatever man, you're the most annoying person to discuss anything with. Not because you`re so knowledgeable of a subject, but because once you hang onto a position no amount of reasoning will move you. Unless you see a cat that`s both dead and alive you won`t believe in Schrodinger`s idea will you?

@Jamie76: That`s what I was trying to discuss, it`s not impossible, it`s just highly improbable, but circa 100 years ago, so was creating mass.

@insane_ai: Yes of course that would work but then we`re just talking about efficiencies, which a lot of other machines are probably better at than Boyle`s device (with a pump)

AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1061 Posts
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:27:55 AM
Huh. Link didn't come through.

The Museum of Unworkable Devices

AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1061 Posts
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:27:03 AM
insane_ai, the reason dams work is because they do not operate in a closed system. The water is continually replenished by the power of the sun. In a closed system, perpetual motion has been proven to be impossible. If you continually add energy to the system, then yes, you can have the system go on forever, but that's not perpetual motion -- that`s just plain old normal physics in an open system.

Is any of this actually possible? Perhaps, but not in our universe. In our universe, conservation of energy is a provable reality, just as Angilion states. Could magic be real? Perhaps, but just not in our universe. Feel free to explore the possibility of other universes where the laws of physics are different, but here in universe A (AKA the Fighting Mongooses), leave the crazy at the door, please!

More info on all of these very fascinating, yet impossible machines:
McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 14177 Posts
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 6:33:11 AM
Infinet energy is alread here people just open your eyes and look to the fart!!! Just harness the combustion of the the lit fart and look!! MY PROTOTYPE REACTOR vv

insane_ai
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 686 Posts
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 6:02:25 AM
@Jendrian:
I am not a physiscist but I think if you calibrated the machine to offer less resistance than gravity offers in 'pulling` energy, it may be possible to harness that energy.

Think about water falls used to generate power, this device basically creates its own continuous waterfall by manipulating gravity.

Even at a rate of 10%, with no waste (other than maybe work out machinery) it is worht an attempt to avoid exhausting finite fuel sources.


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