Saturday, September 1, 2012 1:32:42 AM
in the early 80s my aunt had an abortion. they didnt anesthetize or sedate her whatsoever. she said it felt like the dr was using a serated spoon, the kind you use for grapefruits. the dr was later called barbaric by southern groups. i cannot imagine this happening this day and age.
Friday, August 31, 2012 2:16:02 PM
@5cats-That's the point. She`s arguing against the pro-life movement by illustrating the kind of situations that arose from abortion being illegal. When you said "things are different now" I assumed that you meant "things are different now, if it were made illegal nowadays things like that would never happen."
Friday, August 31, 2012 1:51:59 PM
@SmagBoy: Seriously? Not one hospital, clinic or doctor in the USA, outside of Planned Parenthood, will perform an abortion? Seriously?
Why can a thing not acquire its intrinsic value after it begins to exist? @patchy: That question? It's kinda difficult to figure out what you`re asking there, eh?
Once it has it`s own DNA, seperate from the mother = it`s a baby IMO. That`s after about 4 cell divisions, idk how many hours or days it takes. So yes, at the 8 cell stage it really is "part of the mother`s body" and not a baby at all. After that it`s a seperate human being.
Soon enough we`ll have "artificial wombs" and such! It won`t end abortions but ought to cut down on them.
Friday, August 31, 2012 1:37:48 PM
@fuzzysheep: I just think that "26 weeks" is an arbitrary number, any abortion after the first few cell divisions kills a baby, but isn't neccessarily "murder".
@5cats--What`s so incomparable between now and 1967? @DrProfessor: Um, abortions are not only legal now, the government PAYS FOR THEM? Single mothers are fully supported by 90% of society? It`s `night and day` different, was that a trick question?
We cannot go back to the "no abortion ever" days as that would be bad too! It`s a difficult issue with no clear solutions. However: pretending it`s NOT killing a baby is just... vile. Admit what it is! Tell the truth!