How Was The World Created? [Pic]

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5Cats Male, 40-49, Canada 16886 Posts	Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:47:00 AM @HolyGod: I've heard that arguement too: God is an "extra step". Except for ooooone little problem: MOTIVE! Why did God make the Universe? idk, but I`ll bet he had a reason! Why did the BigBang make the Universe? No reason. It seems more "logical" to me to chose the one with motive, rather than the (Infinity-1):1 "lucky chance" eh? Infinity minus one...

HolyGod Male, 30-39, Western US 2888 Posts	Friday, July 13, 2012 10:19:31 AM 5Cats Here is my point about the big Bang / God opinion that I have heard several times: People say God created the Big Bang. Why? Because it had to come from somewhere. So everything had to come from something? Yes. Then where did God come from? .... You arrive at the exact same problem, so remove the deity and save a step.

5Cats Male, 40-49, Canada 16886 Posts	Friday, July 13, 2012 1:50:38 AM "Religion starts with a made-up conclusion..." I disagree @LJ and here's why: It may be a `nit` I`m picking but both Science and Religion observe the REAL WORLD and try to come up with explainations for HOW it is! How did we get here? How did the Sun form? Why THESE mountains, why THIS sky? (send it up/watch it rise/see it fall/gravity`s rainbow) Zennnnnn Ooops! Back now! Well, they just came up with different explainations. Just because science is "more modern" doesn`t mean it`s not got a LOT in common with the philosophies that came before it.

5Cats Male, 40-49, Canada 16886 Posts	Friday, July 13, 2012 1:45:24 AM @HolyGod: Glad you picked up on the "fairy tale" aspect, even though Shreck (the storybook) is modren I think it still counts. Thanks for the reference (Book, chapter verse) It's a pet peeve of mine when either side (ESPECIALLY the "christians" -lower case because I believe this group to be false) fail to do so. That donkey didn`t talk, she was... like... a puppet! YEah! That`s it! "Why do you need God to have made the big bang?" We don`t "need it" BUT the explaination is EXACTLY the same for BB and God (and His creation): Was there before time & space, always was and always will be, just happened poof so fast! Violates all the laws of physics we currently know, but that`s OK because we have "faith" in science/God... Just sayin...

Lord_Jereth Male, 40-49, Midwest US 557 Posts	Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:17:20 AM The difference between science and religion: Religion starts with a made-up conclusion and then denies any and all conflicting evidence, by any means necessary, in order to support that conclusion. Science starts with a hypotheses and tries to disprove said hypotheses through observation, reproducible testing results and corroborating, empirical evidence. If said hypotheses can not be disproved through these means it then becomes a theory that stands until disproved by better testing methods. The problem is that society dictates that an individual's "beliefs" or faith should be respected, no matter how ludicrous or delusional. This has lead to such things as willful ignorance at best and ethnic and religious cleansing, inquisitions, religious wars and heinous acts of terrorism at worst. Respect for religion is an irresponsibly obsolete and dangerous practice. History repeatedly proves this. LJ

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