Here is my point about the big Bang / God opinion that I have heard several times: People say God created the Big Bang. Why? Because it had to come from somewhere. So everything had to come from something? Yes. Then where did God come from? ....
You arrive at the exact same problem, so remove the deity and save a step.
Friday, July 13, 2012 1:50:38 AM
"Religion starts with a made-up conclusion..." I disagree @LJ and here's why: It may be a `nit` I`m picking but both Science and Religion observe the REAL WORLD and try to come up with explainations for HOW it is! How did we get here? How did the Sun form?
Why THESE mountains, why THIS sky?
(send it up/watch it rise/see it fall/gravity`s rainbow)
Ooops! Back now! Well, they just came up with different explainations. Just because science is "more modern" doesn`t mean it`s not got a LOT in common with the philosophies that came before it.
Friday, July 13, 2012 1:45:24 AM
@HolyGod: Glad you picked up on the "fairy tale" aspect, even though Shreck (the storybook) is modren I think it still counts.
Thanks for the reference (Book, chapter verse) It's a pet peeve of mine when either side (ESPECIALLY the "christians" -lower case because I believe this group to be false) fail to do so.
That donkey didn`t talk, she was... like... a puppet! YEah! That`s it!
"Why do you need God to have made the big bang?" We don`t "need it" BUT the explaination is EXACTLY the same for BB and God (and His creation): Was there before time & space, always was and always will be, just happened *poof* so fast! Violates all the laws of physics we currently know, but that`s OK because we have "faith" in science/God...
Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:17:20 AM
The difference between science and religion:
Religion starts with a made-up conclusion and then denies any and all conflicting evidence, by any means necessary, in order to support that conclusion.
Science starts with a hypotheses and tries to disprove said hypotheses through observation, reproducible testing results and corroborating, empirical evidence. If said hypotheses can not be disproved through these means it then becomes a theory that stands until disproved by better testing methods.
The problem is that society dictates that an individual's "beliefs" or faith should be respected, no matter how ludicrous or delusional. This has lead to such things as willful ignorance at best and ethnic and religious cleansing, inquisitions, religious wars and heinous acts of terrorism at worst.
Respect for religion is an irresponsibly obsolete and dangerous practice. History repeatedly proves this.