Friday, May 11, 2012 11:53:26 PM
It's amazing how that thing landed on a rocket motor, and never dislodged one piece of dust. Incredible! Yep: they went to the moon. Just as guys in a cave orchestrated 9/11. This was the beginning of the `Oh my god! They actually BOUGHT it!` times. Yep, if we can get away with this, the sky`s the limit. Look up Operation Northwoods, if you`re interested about planes and buildings. Let`s just say that they had the `technology` in the early 60`s, to do.....things.
Friday, May 11, 2012 6:32:35 PM
I was about to link to the photon return counts from an observatory using the reflector arrays left by Apollo missions, which very clearly show the very large difference between the reflector arrays and the lunar surface (they use a very powerful, very narrowly focussed laser, so they can detect reflections off the natural lunar surface).
Then I realised that anyone who believes that every piece of evidence must be fake would, obviously, believe that evidence is fake too.
"Every piece of evidence is fake if it supports something I don't believe in" is a non-falsifiable position.
Friday, May 11, 2012 6:22:08 PM
Oh, and I'm still waiting for any of the faithful to answer my simple question:
Why do you think the USA went to the major expense and enormous political risk of faking something when they could have done it for real, cheaper and with far less risk?
Hell, I`m even giving you a free pass on the assumption that they *could* have faked it. I`m not convinced that it would have been possible for them to fake it even if they wanted to.
Also, do you believe that all the manned moon missions were fake or just the first one? Did you even know that there were others? Sounds like a dumb question, but many believers are so utterly ignorant that they think there was only one manned moon landing (that they think was faked anyway).
The belief that Elvis faked his death and is working with the aliens in Area 51 (having had alien medical treatment to greatly extend is life) is less silly, because at least it isn`t possible to prove that false.
Friday, May 11, 2012 6:16:14 PM
Angillion, they fire 10 to the power of 17 (100 million billion) photons at that 'mirror`. Only a handful come back suggesting that the mirror is dusty and only has an albedo of .8 as of 2012. The moon has an albedo of .8 - .12 depending on it`s phase.
Even if your quoted figures are true (and I`m not accepting them as such, given how much disinformation is spread about the subject), they would still actually be evidence of the existence of the reflector array. It`s not only about what %age of light is reflected. It`s also, very importantly, about the direction it`s reflected in. With such distances, poor reflectivity and the Earth`s atmosphere twice, you will *not* get the same results from a reflector array made specifically to reflect straight back and an equally reflective natural ground surface that isn`t.