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Neil DeGrasse`s Fascinatingly Disturbing Thought

If these thoughts are disturbing to DeGrasse, how do you think normies like us are supposed to feel?

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Neil DeGrasse`s Fascinatingly Disturbing Thought. If these thoughts are disturbing to DeGrasse, how do you think normies like us are supposed to feel?
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Hits: 8989 | Favorites: 13 | Emailed: 3 | Rating: 3.4 | Category: Science | Date: 05/08/2012
 
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Laubwald
Female, 18-29, Europe
 49 Posts
Monday, May 14, 2012 11:06:14 AM
"life might be an inevitable consequence of complex chemistry."

great quote :)

Wendypants
Female, 30-39, Canada
 2331 Posts
Thursday, May 10, 2012 5:28:33 PM
Huh, I take to all sorts of animals and bugs all the time and I always look for a response.

jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2494 Posts
Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:26:43 AM
@5Cats: The EPR experiment is the same kind of argument Schrodinger used against the interpretation of quantum mechanics, but in the case of Einstein about the interpretation of the wave function as the complete description of the state of a particle. In the sense that Schrodinger ridiculed QM, so did Einstein , Podolski and Rosen.

After that other people, notably Bell and de Broglie developed this experiment into something "testable" (in the sense of what QFT theorists do their experiments...) and found results consistent with their hypothesis. I don't agree much with their methods but moving on, the theory is theirs, just like you can`t say that the current interpretation of QM is the work of Schrodinger because of his cat, you can`t say that non-locality is Einstein`s because of the EPR paradox.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 28138 Posts
Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:08:35 PM
@jendrian: Are we talking about the same theory(s)? I thought we were, but you saying Einstein ridiculed it makes me wonder.

EPR Paradox

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Action At A Distance

It seems to me like it WAS Einstein's theory. That`s how I remembered it.

Anyhow, thanks for the interesting conversation!

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1720 Posts
Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:08:35 PM
He's so flawed in his comparisons. First of all he says we`re 1% different from a chimp and then asks rhetorically when we`ve stopped to talk to a worm (which we`re more than 1% different from). We have interacted with chimps and they certainly notice it.

Secondly, more importantly, what is this parallel he`s drawing with intelligence and genetic difference? There is a zero difference between us now and our ancestors from 30k years ago. We`re certainly more intelligent. What`s up there?

The more reasonable explanation we haven`t found intelligent aliens is because space is too big and our civilizations` peaks are separated by millions of years.

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