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Climategate Is Debunked Once And For All

Peter Sinclair takes an unusual approach: Treating the work of the scientists seriously.

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Climategate Is Debunked Once And For All. Peter Sinclair takes an unusual approach: Treating the work of the scientists seriously.
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Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:53:42 PM
(Cont'd)

Regarding my challenge, I`m afraid you`ve dropped the ball. I asked you to provide a single QUOTE from the video (the video that you`ve described as "nearly fact-free") that is erroneous, which you haven`t done. Simply saying you disagree with the hockeystick graph isn`t providing a quote.

And that hockeystick graph? You know, the one you call "fake"? It`s been affirmed by the National Academy of Sciences, this nation`s most respected and prestigious scientific body. In other words, the position you`ve taken can not only be described as out of the mainstream, but actually "anti-science."

Sorry, but them`s the facts, Pentapuss. =^.^=

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:44:28 PM
@5Cats: I knew I should have continued with my explanation, because you're clearly still not understanding the tree rings thing (either that or you are deliberately confusing the issue, which I doubt).

The "decline" has nothing to do with global temperatures; it has to do with tree ring growth. And in no way was Michael Mann or anyone else "hiding" the technique or trick used of blending reliable temperature proxies with modern-day scientific temperature readings; it`s stated as clear as day on the chart.

If you really do want to understand the issue, and not inadvertently repeat falsehoods, I suggest spending 20 mins reading over this and then following up with me if you still have questions.

(Cont`d next post)

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25866 Posts
Tuesday, May 8, 2012 12:45:22 PM
Oh I know why they did it @Squrlz, but you (and/or others) have claimed their methods to be beyond reproach, right? So they use tree rings, until the tree rings DON'T SUPPORT THEIR CONCLUSION anymore, then they HIDE it!
Is that valid science? I simply do not care if there`s `another explaination` for the divergence. Either include ALL tree-ring data, "un tricked" or leave it out as unreliable. That`s science!
OR explain what you`ve done up front, not hide it! That`s more than dishonest, it`s unethical!

Provide one quote of Sinclair`s from this video that is erroneous.

Hockeystick, it`s fake, false and wildly inaccurate. Erroneous is an UNDERSTATEMENT!

@CreamK: Money, money and they`re not "two groups" it`s Big Oil doing most of the "green research". And it`s not "scientists all over the world" it`s a few guys who started the AGW scare, the rest jumped on the moneytrain (AlGore)

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4676 Posts
Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:50:51 AM
Gerry1of1-"The GOP has a winning strategy. They sell FEAR."

The GOP sales fear?!?!

Which party is telling sell that OTHER party is trying to kill you and steal your money? (D)
Which party is trying to sell Class Warfare? (D)
Which party is trying to sell a faux Republican 'War on Women`? (D)
Which party is trying to sell Race Warfare? (D).

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Tuesday, May 8, 2012 6:27:27 AM

mcboozerilla
"How can a major political party be anti-science?"

The GOP has a winning strategy. They sell FEAR. They let you know who is to blame for everything bad, and if they can't find something it`s no problem to "make up facts". Like when Bush had cloning banned. He sold the idea that it lead to harvesting body parts and no one was safe from those Mad Scientists! {Mwa-ha-ha-ha }

They`re also good at wagging the dog. "Rich people got richer, and you got poorer because the liberals gave all your money away!" "Your life would be so much better if those bums weren`t soaking up the resources". It`s classic distraction while they pick your pocket.

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